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[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 5 days ago (16 children)

Yet, the GrapheneOS devs will continue to insist that Linux isn't viable because of "security". Well, how useful is AOSP going to continue being with Google holding it hostage?? It sure seems to me that spending effort to make mobile Linux more secure and usable would be a much better long-term strategy than to keep developing for a dying, hostile ecosystem.

[–] hyperio@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Android is not the problem here. In fact I love Android very much. What I don't like is Google.

AOSP and Google need to be seperated. While Linux mobile would be nice, phones work differently than PCs and I don't think Linux will just "work" like it does on desktop. There's a reason why it's so far behind. Popularity and viability. I just don't think it's worth it.

Android is amazing. It's secure, great, snappy and it's still very open. However I do NOT trust Google that they will not fuck up the freedom aspect of it in the near future.

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Okay, as I'm sure you know, Android is built on Linux, so saying something like Linux wouldn't work on phones is quite an odd statement. And Linux on PC's wasn't always "it just work". It's taken a long time and hard work to get it to where it is. And it's "just" code, there's no reason whatsoever that with a lot of sweat and elbow grease it can be a good user experience (see Sailfish OS). The desire and need for a non-Android OS has been quite low until recently.

I do agree that moving AOSP stewardship to someone else would be for the best and the easiest option for everyone involved (except Google I guess).

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