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[–] Technus@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago (15 children)

I feel like there's some potential in password-derived passkeys, which would get around the storage and hardware lock-in issues. It'd essentially be a master password like for BitWarden, but instead of needing an app to store a bunch of generated passwords, the master password could be all you need to authenticate.

Most of the sources of compromise for regular users would be eliminated because the password never leaves the client.

[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Bitwarden lets you store passkeys in its vault, which I think is what you're asking for? It's mentioned in the post too.

I have some passkeys in my Bitwarden, and my Bitwarden account is protected with a USB + NFC Yubikey.

The experience is inconsistent across phone platforms at the moment, but it works great on computers. On Android, it currently only lets you use a password manager if the passkey is your primary credential for logging into the site. Android doesn't support passkeys from password managers for 2FA yet.

[–] Technus@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Bitwarden lets you store passkeys in its vault, which I think is what you're asking for? It's mentioned in the post too.

No. I'm talking about using the password to directly derive the passkey. This would eliminate the need to store them in something like BitWarden.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

What you are proposing is no different from using a password and wrapping it in custom transport security to send it to the server. This would result in everyone simply using the same password for all sites.

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 1 week ago

This just sounds like using the same password on every site. Am I missing something?

Passkeys have to be unique per site so that you can revoke one without having to change something on every other site.

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