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I've seen so many men terrified of anything gay themed. I've watched men refuse to be friends with people who didn't act manly enough. I've watched grown-ass men bark "f@gg0+," every time they saw 2 dudes expressing an interest in one another on TV. Pink Pony Club, I Kissed a Girl, and several other songs are a complete turn-off for them.

I have to ask, what scares you guys? What, sitting in the pit of your stomach, do you feel and think when you see gay things?

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[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Not if you’re asking a question two steps away from answering yourself anyways. This is why sociology should be a requirement. If I go down that rabbit hole like I said it would be way too long. If it missed the point of the argument then why even bother giving them any explanation. It’s not a fear of homophobia is why it’s the wrong question.

[–] _rat@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

For some reason i didn't read this part of your earlier response:

The right question is what brings this consistent ideology or theme. What makes it popular enough that enough people decide to participate in it that op finds this pattern and asks it online

Now i can put the pieces together and have a rough idea where you're going with this.

Anyway, let me insist that you're asking something from the OP that it wasn't trying to give in the first place. Your approach is academic, the OP's is emotional.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

OP is trying to solve a question that is the wrong approach altogether. Academic or emotional if you’re not going the right way it’s a pointless discussion.

[–] _rat@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I understand you think it's wrong, but that's because you're looking at this through a different lens.

Here's what i take from it:

I don't like seeing people behave this way in these circumstances; i really don't understand it. Lets talk about what you people feel in those same circumstances.

In casual communicative contexts, phrasing something as a question doesn't necessarily mean it's seeking an answer or at least not one that solves a problem. So, this can't be a pointless discussion, because it isn't a discussion at all, and certainly not an academic one. It's people sharing experiences, just a conversation. it's great you want more rigor, but asking for it here as if it were obvious misses the point: this wasn't a context that demanded rigor from the start.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

You don’t get that this is the worst type of approach to this situation. You want to understand through ignorance be my guest. You wont find your answer. But, these people are the same as the people they think are “afraid” just two ignorant fools.