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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago (8 children)

There is also a dearth of cannibalistic viewpoints here. And Zoroastrians are woefully underrepresented.

I don't come here to change my views (though it happens from time to time), and neither do they. I'm not ignorant of their thoughts; I'm inundated with them every day. I don't need to interact with assholes here. I don't want to come here and watch people scream back and forth at each other, and I definitely am not interested in participating—there is a reason I've left other social media.

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (7 children)

You don't have to subscribe to political communities if you don't want to see political discussion. But the dearth of genuine political discussion here is a problem for the people who do want it, that can't be fixed by individual action.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What is genuine political discussion? How do you moderate it? Who is going to come when it's moderated? How do you deal with both legitimate and legitimate complaints about biased moderation?

I just don't think it's a thing on social media. I think it can happen in private conversations, but as soon as it becomes more about winning an argument or posturing for readers, I think any hope of earnest discourse is lost. The more public a conversation, the worse it is. It's like trying to argue with a bully in front of their friends. You might be able to reach the humanity in them, but not in that moment.

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It used to be, in the early days of mass social media (and it was widespread on forums)

Moderation isn't easy but it also needn't be fraught - set standards of civility (strict or loose) and basic rules about hate speech, and let people take themselves out of discussions that are within the rules that they nevertheless don't like.

It works a lot better in small communities where you talk to the same people - you can ignore people you don't like and not have the same conversation over and over.

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