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This always annoys me. I land on a site that's in a language I don't understand (say, Dutch), and I want to switch to something else. I open the language selector and... it's all in Dutch too. So instead of Germany/Deutchland, Romania/România, Great Britain, etc, I get Duitsland and Roemenië and Groot-Brittannië...

How does that make any sense? If I don't speak the language, how am I supposed to know what Roemenië even is? In some situations, it could be easier to figure it out, but in some, not so much. "German" in Polish is "Niemiecki"... :|

Wouldn't it be way more user-friendly to show the names in their native language, like Deutsch, Română, English, Polski, etc?

Is there a reason this is still a thing, or is it just bad UX that nobody bothers to fix?

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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world -3 points 18 hours ago (10 children)

Valid comment to some degree, but putting language options in the selected language is always dumber than providing them in the only world language.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago (9 children)

Nobody's arguing that it's the right way to do it, we're just saying that breaking out words like "dumb" after the fact from the comfort of our keyboards, over problems that aren't necessarily obvious at development time if you've not had i18n training, is kind of harsh.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago (8 children)

The only thing I know about i18n is that it is an annoying shitload of language installer packages for both firefox and libreoffice ^^ That said, however, how you need training for a localization package to provide a language menu(!) - not the translations, mind you - in English, is beyond me. I can't follow the point you seem to be trying to make. There's no reason to not hardcode (in English) a language selection menu, and then display the list of available site languages (and these should be a country flag with the name of language next to it in what may be the language itself)

[–] Eufalconimorph@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The languages in a language menu should each be written in their own language. So German should be "Deutsch", English should be "English", Japanese should be "日本語", etc.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I could live with that, as long as the language menu button itself is labeled in English and not e.g. "Sprache ändern"

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