Ms Ryan said that she planned to introduce another private member's bill during the upcoming term of federal parliament, after an initial bill in 2018 failed to pass.

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[–] MisterFrog@aussie.zone 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (23 children)

Daily reminder for what this independent stands for. She is a big L Liberal who just happens to believe in climate change and that queer people exist.

https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/people/representatives/kooyong/monique_ryan

[Edit: I reckon what I wrote below here was probably a bit extreme. I still don't like Monique Ryan, but yeah, she is at least sane when it comes to climate and identity.

I still think it's fair to post this criticism under every single thing she says. But I will concede that her being a wanker doesn't necessarily mean giving 16 year olds the vote is culture war.

I don't take back anything about her being shit. If you're voting against criminalising wage theft, you are a shit person.

This was my knee-jerk reaction:]

To me, this is more culture war bullshit that right-wingers love to distract us with.

The voting age is perfectly fine where it is and is in line with practically all other age restrictions.

She voted against criminalising wage theft. Teals are not not-shit candidates, despite what The Juice Media might be peddling.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I just don't see why any of this is relevant here. Someone can be wrong in one area and right in another. They can even be wrong in most areas and right in this one area. You are the one bringing "culture war bullshit" to "distract us" from the conversation at hand here. Discuss the question on its merits, or don't discuss it at all, IMO. Don't distract by attacking the person who happens to be the messenger in this specific case.

[–] MisterFrog@aussie.zone 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is fair. And I'm sorry for how I responded because of my strong dislike for her.

I should have just left the reminder that she's anti-worker as an off-topic aside.

The rest of it, as you rightly point out, is not my best work.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah for sure. If it had been presented as an aside, like "btw don't let her support of this good idea distract from all the other bad stuff she's done", I think there would have been significantly less pushback.

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