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[+] T00l_shed@lemmy.world -6 points 5 months ago (18 children)

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago (17 children)

Their large firms and key industries are publicly owned, and central planning is the backbone of their economy. Their economic base is the public sector. This is socialism. State capitalism is when the large firms and key industries are privately owned, but directed by a strong state, like Singapore, the Republic of Korea, Bismark's Germany, and the US post-WWII. As far as corruption, over 90% of Chinese citizens approve of their government. Xi is incredibly popular because of the anti-corruption campaigns successfully removing large amounts of opportunists.

I don't really know what you think socialism is.

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[+] T00l_shed@lemmy.world -6 points 5 months ago (10 children)

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

socialism would be the government actually looking out for their population, which the Chinese government doesn’t do.

The real wage (IE the wage adjusted for the prices you pay) has gone up 4x in the past 25 years, more than any other country. This is staggering considering it's the most populous country on the planet. The US real wage by comparison is lower in 2019 than it was in 1973.
Workplace democracy in action in the CPC.
US Life expectancy peaked in 2015, is on the decline, and is now lower than in China. 2
- How healthcare works in China (refuting a fearmongering NYT video about health care in China).
- Uninsured Chinese citizens pay an average of $5-7 to see a specialist (the majority of hospital visits ), and with insurance, its free. 95% of Chinese citizens have insurance
Wages themselves are forced to rise in the private sector by the CPC (+16% every years, +400% since 1980) who force the capitalists to accept the presence of CPC chapters who represent the interest of the workers, increasing workers control even in the capitalist parts of the economy.
Eliminated Urban Poverty. On track to eliminate all poverty within a decade.
CGTN documentary - China's war on poverty
What kind of democracy does China have, and how is it different from the west?
In contrast to low US political approval ratings, 96% of Chinese are satisfied with the national government (Edelmans 2016). World Values Surveys says that 83% think the country is run for their benefit rather than for the benefit of special groups. A Harvard research center study of long-term public opinion survey finds that > 95% of Chinese citizens approved their government. How is this possible in a one-party state? (TED talk by Eric X Li)

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[+] T00l_shed@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago

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