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Socialism will never work because it’s founded on emancipation, and you can’t force people to emancipate themselves. That would be the opposite of emancipation.

I’m not sure if this is a quote, I can’t remember where I heard it.

"Emancipation" in this case meaning emancipation from wage slavery.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (5 children)

That doesn't make any sense as a statement. It sounds like you can't force freedom on people, but yeah you can make them free without consent but I don't get how that makes sense in this context.

Multiple countries show socialism works perfectly fine for essential and shared services and other things a society needs. It doesn't work for everything, which is why so many countries are a blend of socialist public stuff like universal healthcare, free education, and those kinds of things whle still having capitalism in the firm of private for profit companies for non-essential stuff like restaurants and clothing stores.

Note that if the country has socialist in the name it probably isn't actually socialist in practice.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

No. Socialism is not when the government does stuff.

Socialism refers to workers owning the means of production. Free education and universal healthcare are not socialist in themselves.

[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Free education and universal healthcare are not socialist in themselves.

Sure they are: production is undertaken to fulfill a social need.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Not exactly.
Socialism is defined as:

a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Essentially, the workers should own the means of production. This would involve workers having democratic control over their workplace, and have control over their produce.

Universal Healthcare and free education is not socialist, it's just government funded.

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