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[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 6 days ago (9 children)

Had a convo with an anarchist colleague some days ago and my conclusion was: this just sounds like hyperindividualism. No state, no central authority whatsoever, ultimate freedom for the individual, whatever.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 18 points 6 days ago (5 children)

there's more advanced anarchism that differentiates bureaucracy from state and hierarchy but that always sounds like libertarians reinventing the state to me and it only makes any sense to me in vague "post-prison abolition we'll still have somewhere to separate serial killers from society" way where the imagined structure is so different from what we have now that people don't want to call it a state.

[–] Maeve1@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 6 days ago

Segregation of people who didn't want to abide by an anarchist community's (or states) agreed upon rules was always an issue I couldn't resolve, no matter how many solutions/explanations were given me.

Firstly, rules people agree to have are...laws? Secondly, if they don't agree, they leave. Who's guaranteeing they leave/don't re-enter to reoffend? Don't get me wrong, there is plenty to criticize with most jail/prison systems I've heard/read about, but I have read good things about either Norwegian or Danish, for even violent offenders (I forget which, I think Denmark), that actually provide formal education, therapy, social reintegration strategies, and even pet or equine care (empathy, healthy attachment), open cells and more. In my admittedly limited perspective, although the investment up front is more costly, it seems less expensive in both monetary and social costs, but the truth of the matter is, addressing these issues before they become actual issues is the real investment, and real cost-saving strategy. We're not there and with unaddressed multigenerational trauma coupled with emerging epigenetic discoveries, it may take several generations to get to a point of actual humanitarian segregation and hopefully, ultimately, phasing out incarceration.

Until then, I haven't been able to conceive of how to properly address recidivism outside what I've mentioned. I'm open to ideas.

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