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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (16 children)

That was a beautiful read.

But do i find myself conflicted about dismissing it as a potential technical skill all together.

I have seen comfy-ui workflows that are build in a very complex way, some have the canvas devided in different zones, each having its own prompts. Some have no prompts and extract concepts like composition or color values from other files.

I compare these with collage-art which also exists from pre existing material to create something new.

Such tools take practice, there are choices to be made, there is a creative process but its mostly technological knowledge so if its about such it would be right to call it a technical skill.

The sad reality however, is how easy it is to remove parts of that complexity “because its to hard” and barebones it to simple prompt to output. At which point all technical skill fades and it becomes no different from the online generators you find.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

All of that's great and everything, but at the end of the day all of the commercial VLM art generators are trained on stolen art. That includes most of the VLMs that comfyui uses as a backend. They have their own cloud service now, that ties in with all the usual suspects.

So even if it has some potentially genuine artistic uses I have zero interest in using a commercial entity in any way to 'generate' art that they've taken elements for from artwork they stole from real artists. Its amoral.

If it's all running locally on open source VLMs trained only on public data, then maybe - but that's what... a tiny, tiny fraction of AI art? In the meantime I'm happy to dismiss it altogether as Ai slop.

[–] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

only a note: LLMs are for text

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Thanks. I edited

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