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No they didn't. They just said that without proving it, and you believed them despite the cases there they do wrongly deport citizens
I’m curious why you think someone who entered the country illegally deserves a “fair trial” before being deported when they’re in the country illegally?
@FreedomAdvocate @IzzyJ because you can't establish whether they're in the country illegally without a fair trial.
Yes you can lol. Citizenship records exist. Visa records exist.
Can you determine if someone has a drivers license without a trial?
@FreedomAdvocate What's the process to make sure those get checked before you get punished for being there? I say "you" on purpose - if I said "freedom advocate is here illegally! Take them!" and they believed me and threw you in the back of a van, what would you expect to happen at that point? Who would you speak to? How? How would you make sure they did what needed to be done to establish *your* legality? How would you make them check your papers?
They wouldn’t punish me in the first place because they’d have checked their records and seen that I am a citizen. No one is just being rounded up on an allegation and deported. No citizens have been deported.
You’re saying that they don’t follow procedures, and your solution is……procedures?
@FreedomAdvocate no citizens have been deported *because they are seeing judges*. https://web.archive.org/web/20250418013839/https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/17/us/lopez-gomez-citizen-detained-ice-florida/index.html
@FreedomAdvocate ignoring the fact that some children who are citizens *have* been forced to leave the country with their deported parents. So even the premise is incorrect.
Cool, so no citizens have been deported. Thanks for confirming my point and agreeing with me.
@FreedomAdvocate haha, teaches me for jumping in halfway through an argument. I'll stick to *my* point about rule of law and due process though.
@FreedomAdvocate if I were law enforcement I probably could establish whether you had a driver's licence, but who's making me do it? If I tried to put you in jail for driving without a licence, even though you had a licence that I didn't check, what's your recourse?
So your argument is that they disregard procedures, and your solution to this is…… procedures?
@FreedomAdvocate yup