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[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 42 points 2 months ago (16 children)

If Sanders made a third party nobody would ever shut the fuck up about stealing votes from Democrats and putting Republicans in power forever.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Yes. And if we had started on this project in the aftermath of 2016, we'd have a viable third party.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

If ifs and buts were candies and nuts we’d all have a merry Christmas. We can only work in the reality we have, not the one we want. As long as voters are married to the idea that the only meaningful opposition to Republicans is the Democratic Party, then that’s what we’re stuck with.

I think it’s far more viable to introduce ranked choice voting (which would allow for electing a third party while ensuring voters aren’t ’throwing away their vote’ if the third party doesn’t win) than it would be to convince the vast majority of Democratic voters to abandon the party and vote for a party that has won no elections. Maybe that would have worked a century ago when there were more parties and people were more used to the idea of living outside a two party system.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

the reality is that another effectively 2 party system at the united state's southern border went third party in almost 10 years ago and things got better.

it's odd that you dismiss a political voting system change that literally happened in the real world within our lifetimes; but advocate for another shift that has never been permitted by a political duopoly.

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