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And here I was waiting to get unplugged, or maybe finding a Nokia phone that received a call.

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[–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This doesn't really address the idea that our simulation is a simplified version of the "real" universe though does it?

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

They argue that the universe isn’t mathematically computable, and therefore not possible to simulate. It’s not about physical computers.

We know there’s a class of ”uncomputable problems” for which there’s no algorithm (most well known is halting problem). If the universe rely on any of these uncomputable problems, then no computer - no matter how advanced it is - can simulate the universe. Something else other than pure computation is needed.

However, their argument rely on that ”quantum gravity” is what makes the universe uncomputable. I’m not sure how valid this statement is.

[–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Going to circle back around on uncomputible in "our" version of reality. I mean it's kind of lazy in its way but it seems like the possibility that the "real" universe is a fundamentally different kind of place throws out most if not all methods for "proving" it's not. I'm not even a fan of the matrix theory but still, to acknowledge it.

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