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[–] talentedkiwi@sh.itjust.works 184 points 1 day ago (23 children)

It’s also worth clarifying that ProtonMail doesn’t collect IP addresses by default. Instead, the monitoring/ logging starts after ProtonMail gets a legal request.

They still have to adhere to legal requests.

[–] Nyxias@fedia.io 12 points 1 day ago (19 children)

Yes, exactly.

Privacy is and should be a right, absolutely if you've done nothing wrong.

But it doesn't absolve anyone from the right to shroud from any crime committed, period.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago (9 children)

should be a right, absolutely if you've done nothing wrong.

The loss of privacy happens before the determination whether that person has done anything wrong. If the person's criminal case goes well, do you have a time machine to go back and not invade privacy?

[–] Nyxias@fedia.io 0 points 1 day ago

No, because that's the part where someone should've learned a lesson or two. What do you mean if a criminal case goes well? If someone is suspected of something and may be involved in a crime, what entitlement do you have? It is part of a criminal investigation process. You either comply or worsen your odds by raising suspicions if you continually refuse to cooperate because you're too busy debating police officers about "MUH PRIVACY". Duuuuuhhhhhhh!

Did you think you stepped on some checkmate kind of discovery here? No, you didn't.

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