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I'm referring to communism as the movement, not as communism the mode of production. In the far future where communism is achieved, there wouldn't be individuals propagandized against communism, the lengthy process of getting there is through socialism by which point those contradictions are worked out.
In the present day, capitalists are the enemy of the working classes. Trying to unite the working classes against them and their enablers, ie the GOP, DNC, etc, is a progressive struggle.
As if the rhetoric of today has no influence on the rhetoric of tomorrow.
But even in this very short sighted context, the conflation of "propagandised individuals" and "capitalist" is obviously toxic to the aim of archiving communism.
I will take a wild guess that you have many friends who are raised in capitalistic environments and who have been exposed to anti communism propaganda. Some of that propaganda probably worked on them and consequently they are propagandised individuals. But I doubt you would call them capitalist and enemy. Ofc, you wouldn't as you would special plead for them, while happily supporting conflating propagandised individuals with capitalists and the enemy.
I think you misunderstood what they meant, when they said "capitalists" they meant those who own the capital and such, not people who believe capitalism works and socialism doesn't. Propagandized individuals are only capitalists if they own capital.
No i didn't.
I understand what capitalists are and he does too. We agree with the definition.
He just feels forced to conflate both to justify a toxic meme.