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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago (21 children)

I laughed when Milton Friedman thinks free market could prevent climate change through climate dividends and carbon tax. Good luck, boyo, your "greed is good" bullshit is what led us to here.

[–] presoak@lazysoci.al -4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Would you prefer that all economic action be dictated and we all work for the government?

That might actually be nice.

Might just merge corporations with government then. Might be an end to billionaires.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Collectivizing all production and distribution to satisfy the needs of everyone, ie socialism, is the answer. Not merging corporate and state power, which is the exact opposite.

[–] presoak@lazysoci.al -4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It doesn't look like the opposite. It looks the same

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Get your eyes checked kiddo

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's the opposite, because in socialism the working classes are in control and production and distribution are collectivized, to satisfy the needs of all. In your fascist example, corporations are entrenched in the state, giving capitalists far more power without collectivizing production and distribution, retaining production for profit.

[–] presoak@lazysoci.al -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In both cases you have a monolithic organization running the whole show. What you call it makes little difference. And the people in charge will be of the same type.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, this is fundamentally wrong, akin to saying NATO and doctors without borders are the same thing. If you erase every distinguishing characteristic and just look at things as "organizations" with no further investigation, you absolutely ruin your viewpoint. I already explained how a wide gulf separates fascism and socialism.

[–] presoak@lazysoci.al 0 points 3 days ago

Well all right then

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] presoak@lazysoci.al -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A one day old account defending imperial capitalism. Sure you aren't fascist.

[–] presoak@lazysoci.al -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wouldn't that make me an imperial capitalist?

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

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