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Yes, the US does evil shit in the Middle East. Killing brown-skinned practitioners of the other Abrahamic religion overseas is an American tradition.
That still doesn't change the fact that China is persecuting Uyghurs in the Xinjiang province.
You can't shit-talk one authoritarian state and cheer on another.
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This has to be the least compelling list of evidence one could provide, and yet you get upvotes because it looks like you've provided proof of something. All you've done is provide a lot of incredibly, seriously biased opinions with no actual facts at all.
As opposed to all those unbiased sources you've provided, lol.
Wow, I wonder why there aren’t any Western corporate media sources with a Media Bias/Fact Check seal of approval…
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It's OK to distrust more than one Government, but how anyone can believe the Chineses Government in this matter is beyond me.
Did you not see the insanely violent crack down on Hong Kong Democracy Movement with you own eyes? Do you not remember Tianamen Square? Great Fire-Wall?
Theres liyteraly over 10GB or evidence of the persecution of Uyghurs by the Chinese Government:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_Police_Files
I can understand not wanting to believe/trust the US and EU Govs, but trusting the Chinese Government is (IMO) insane.
Yeah... not suspicious at all.
"How anyone can believe the foreigners is beyond me" Let me guess you don't consider foreigners human
"All foreigners are 'insane' btw" calm down hitler
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The firewall isn’t there to keep Chinese people from The Truth. It’s there to keep imperial core meddling out, and to help China develop its own domestic internet services. In contrast, the rest of the world is dependent on / addicted to US internet services from Google/Alphabet, Amazon, Facebook/Meta, Microsoft, etc., which many countries are beginning to regret.
I already covered Xinjang elsewhere in this post, and if you had read it you would know that Adrian Zenz is a crackpot.
Then you should try it, you hypocritical dipshit. You believe everything that comes out of the western propaganda machine without question, and then assume anyone who doesn't believe them are "believing the Chinese government"
If it were 2002 you would be accusing anyone who didn't believe Iraq of having WMDs of "believing Saddam!"
So do you do this in the opposite direction? When people doubt a claim made by China, do you start randomly bringing up unrelated events from forty years ago. What exactly was the chain of reasoning that made you thought this was relevant? Oh right, there wasn't one: you've just been trained like a literal dog to compulsively blurt out "Tinyman Square!" every time you hear the word "China".
That's the reddit mindset: being as rude, condescending, and smug as humanly possible is fine, but a naughty word is just uncivil.
It’s OK to distrust more than one Government, but how anyone can believe the the west in this matter is beyond me.
The west has repeatedly coup'd, invaded, destroyed, killed, bombed, sanctioned everyone that dares look at them wrong. But sure, daddy west is completely right when it comes to China.
Democracy is when you have west funded protests trying to do a color revolution. Sure.
Oh, one of the biggest propaganda lies the west ever made about China? Have you actually watched the tank man video? How about the evidence of the contrary to the so called "massacre on Tiananmen square".
Oh no, China doesn't allow the west to propagandize to it's citizens, while simultaneously propping it's own national platforms, the horror!!!11!!1!
Also, let's just ignore how the Arab League literally investigated the so called "Xinjiang genocide", and found nothing.
But sure, Adrian Zenz is right, lmao.
Nobody said anything about MBFC. Good luck, like I said in another comment I’m not going to argue with anyone from .ml. I was pointing out the faults in your sources because they’re not proper sources no matter what region of the world you’re from.
"Waaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaah! I'm a little baby incapable of citing sources, I'm not gonna talk to you .ml demons."
Would you prefer something from America's own fox news or New York Times?
No, neither. You’re making up a position and pretending like I believe that to make my argument look weak. I’m not the one posting shit sources.
You're not posting any sources at all. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
What is an example of an axtually credible spurce in your opinion?
I trust OIC and Muslim countries more than I trust any Western source. It is borderline farcical for Western governments and media to pretend to care about the welfare of Muslims in China while directly or indirectly enabling the genocide and ethnic cleansing in Palestine and invasions and war crimes in many other countries as well as the discriminatory policies in their own countries.
You're arguing with a guy that doesn't want to change their mind. He literally sent me a video whose sources contradicted him and guess what happened when I pointed that to him? Never bothered to reply and he still uses that video as proof that he's right.
As opposed to you people, who are totally open and eager to change your minds
Seeing as how I actually watched his video and looked at their sources and other sources and only after that did I reply? Yes. And even to this day I still leave room for doubt. I still think the truth is actually somewhere in the middle. Not you, tho. You're convinced that what you believe is correct.
Yeah, as opposed to believing what I believe is incorrect...
Do you even understand the concept of other minds?
What previous argument that “got deleted within minutes lol”? See this is why Lemmy’s modlog is public.
Exactly. He went from insulting my intelligence in one word to having to use more. But it's still the same reply in essence. Not sure what you're trying to add here, however. Probably same as always, just posturing and pretending you're right hoping nobody would care to check.
I’m still waiting to hear what argument got deleted that was better than BrainInABox’s.
There was no argument. It was another one of his own comments. He said something along the lines of "you people are morons". And that got deleted. But because he was so mad, he decided to insult me again, but in a way that wouldn't get removed. Or maybe it would if it got reported, but I cba. It's higher chance of him replying and further making my point this way. xD
Ah okay. I removed it because ableist insults are a bridge too far.