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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Creating slop featuring Tung Tung Tung Sahur is more important, than travelling by EVs! /j

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I've never heard that the power grid couldn't handle electric vehicles

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So, working for a power company, I have some insight for you on this. This is still the power companies doing bullshit, but there is some truth to the grid being unable to handle electric vehicles. We are seeing the same issue with electric tankless water heaters.

Most companies, unless you ask and pay for it, will size a transformer for your house as small as they can get away with. 15 to 25kVA is kinda standard for overhead, while 50 to 75kVA for padmount is usual (because the same transformer will serve two to four houses).

If you install a fast charger on your house, and run the dryer, and the water heater turns on, the fuse will blow on the transformer. Then you call in an outage, they have to put a new fuse on, and usually don't tell you what was wrong. Then once you figure it out, they have to tell you that you can't do all that (and lose revenue from all the downtime and sending a technican) or they have to put up a bigger transformer.

It's far easier to say "lol our grid is old and bad" than "we don't want to spend out profits on needed upgrades and maintenance". Meanwhile, data centers are exclusively connected directly to a substation that can handle their needs or to their own dedicated transformer banks directly off of transmission lines. Never are they on some back woods tap fifteen miles from their substation.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago (4 children)

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/01/why-the-ev-boom-could-put-a-major-strain-on-our-power-grid.html

It was definitely a talking point for a bit. It was looked into and proven incorrect. It was most likely always a lie to further discourage people on the fence from giving up gas cars. I'm sure it had an impact on some people out there so it probably worked.

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The models literally assumed everyone charged their car at exactly the same time. It was all anti EV bullshit from the start.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even when it was easily proven incorrect it remained a common talking point from people opposed to EVs. Much of that opposition was for ideological/financial reasons, so facts didn’t really matter.

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago

Most anti EV people I've spoken to just repeat the same old untrue things. It's more expensive in electricity to charge it, you can't drive it interstate, the grid can't handle it, the electricity generated is worse than petrol emissions, the batteries are pure Evilium or something that will eradicate all life on Earth, you can't even drive it to work because the range is bad, it will lose range and be undrivable in 5 years, etc…

None of it true of course. But the truth has never stopped a good story

[–] gegil@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

I wonder whether production of gasoline (per car) takes more power than charging a car

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

That was the argument my conservative coworkers made - "I would support electric vehicles, but our grid cannot handle them"

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

You must not hang around with morons.

[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

No, see, it's because we have so many electric vehicles that the grid has extra capacity for data centers! It's just math, duh.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Good point, except it's kinda dumb of us to act like the hypocrisy is particularly relevant.

It's lying, it's bad faith, it's violence.

They go to massive lengths to pretend it's not, so yes, it is always a fantastic use of time to tell that truth about it. They do care, deeply, about not being perceived that way.

I know the post isn't wrong per se, but the fact that it seems to be all I hear means we, ourselves, don't have this the right way round. Let's focus on the focus that changes things, not scores dumb points on our end.

That said: great post 😎

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I can keep my EV charged up most of the time with a 120v outlet. Sometimes if I need a full charge I will hook it up to the 240v 20a outlet and it will top it up.