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SpoilerProbably at the hardware store picking up more Phillips head screws.

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I have impact-driven thousands of screws into wood in my back yard in the past 18 months. Over 1,000 of them were 6" (15cm) big guys, along with tons of 2.5" (~6cm) and 3.5" (9cm).

Every last one was Torx / hexalobular / 6-point. When I bought hardware that came with free phillips head screws, I threw that shit away and used my own.

The "feature" that philips head brings to the table makes it worse for just about every use case other than "I own exactly one screwdriver and never want to get another one."

Torx doesn't HAVE to be the alternative. There are many good screw designs out there. It's just that where I live, that's the non-philips choice that dominates the market. Every store has a variety of choices for torx-driven construction screws.

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

In Canada it's Robertson for construction which is literally a square hole. It works phenomenally well in my opinion especially with drills with torque cutoffs. The only benefit of Phillips or posidrive is the automatic cam-out to control torque, which we don't need anymore with modern tools.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

PH itself is not even that terrible - but companies use the cheapest metal you can find to make the worst possible screws with it

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

Iirc it was indeed designed to be terrible back in the day to protect bits on machines by camming out.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago

Using well made screwdriver bits, replacing them when worn. Never had a ph head stripped since I started doing that. I've more Robertsons stripped in that time. In fact I've grown to dislike Robertson.

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