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Fuck you Whatsapp (lemmy.zip)

submitted 2 weeks ago by gzgz@lemmy.zip to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world

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Fucking morons. I’ve been looking for a new apartment and messaging a ton of real estate agents lately, and WhatsApp just decided to block me for 'suspicious activity.' They already restricted my account a couple of days ago, and I almost missed an apartment viewing because of it. And I‘ve already done that for three moves before with zero issues. I live in a country where literally all communication with real estate agents happens on WhatsApp, so now I’ll have to go out tomorrow and get a whole new phone number if they don’t unblock me or Im gonna end up on the street. Fucking morons. Fuck you, Crapsapp, and your piece-of-shit messenger

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 148 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Welp, here's the thing. Real estate agents typically like getting paid. So I figure if you tell them "Hey, I don't have whatsapp. Let's email or text instead.", they would do it, because a sale is a sale. They aren't agreeing to give anything up. And it's a very temporary situation from their perspective.

Also, I find it wild that meta (facebook), which owns whatsapp, controls the platform that an entire country relies on for any communication within an industry that dictates where you live. That is crazy. That feels like a lot of corruption must have had to happen for that to have happened.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 116 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

WhatsApp has market share from the momentum gained in countries that didn’t have free/cheap SMS. I too find it wild that it’s the default in most of the world, and it’s super shady and super proprietary. The messaging that we have in the US is far far far from perfect, but at least it’s not Facebook Chat.

[–] Mannimarco@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Also, that momentum was gained before whatsapp was bought by Facebook

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 weeks ago

Bingo, this is an anti-trust question

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[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If we could just get people to use Signal.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

I've never used Whatsapp and never will do.
Team Signal since the time it was called Textsecure 🫡
Then again I don't rely on Whatsapp to stay housed 😐

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Plus in markets like Brazil, having unlimited use of WhatsApp services, including video calls, is a selling point for most cellular providers. You will have a data cap but could still video call your grandma on WhatsApp when you're out of data. Every business has their WhatsApp number posted out front and on their websites/social media.

For example, here is Claro, a large Brazilian phone company's cheapest current plan, 36GB of data but unlimited WhatsApp usage and 5GB for social media.

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[–] Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What the FUCK? Why would the providers do that?

[–] dsilverz@catodon.rocks 11 points 2 weeks ago

If you check who's the topmost billionaire with a Brazilian nationality, you'll likely find out part of why. Hint: he is portrayed in "The social network" film.

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[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It (potentially) allows them to charge at both ends. I don't know if that's what happens in Brasil specifically but it happens in a couple of countries.

The providers charge the users for the data use and the services for being exempt from the data caps.

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[–] oats@piefed.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We have one (I think) provider who does free WhatsApp traffic in Germany, but it never took of. WhatsApp itself is used a lot though.

Persobally I have 20 or 30 GB of data, not sure. I use like 3 to 4 each month.

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[–] gzgz@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

In the country I live you can‘t pay to real estate agents (it‘s prohibited). They are getting paid by the landlords, plus the rental market is pretty scarce so usually they don‘t give a fuck about you as they have a ton of inquiries from other potential renters

[–] observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Effectively, they are getting paid by you, landlords factors that fee into the rent. But I get the point that the market favours landlords where you live and you might not have the privilege to ask for accommodations like communicating over SMS. This WhatsApp situation is fucked up, that your basic life functionality depends on a single unaccountable commercial entity.

My practical advice would be to buy an eSIM with a new number, there are very cheap options (like one used for travel) and you would practically need it just one time to get a verification code.

[–] dsilverz@catodon.rocks 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My practical advice would be to buy an eSIM with a new number, there are very cheap options (like one used for travel)

OP would also have to buy a new smartphone and activate it in a cafe or anywhere not their current location (due to both the GPS/AGPS and wi-fi hotspot MAC address), otherwise whatsapp would straight up lock the new account, too, given how these PII (geolocation, wi-fi hotspot and, especially, the device) are tied to an account that got suspended earlier (and this goes against most of plafforms' terms regarding "ban evasion"). Hard resetting the smartphone doesn't work, as smartphones have unique identifiers (such as the phone's wi-fi adapter MAC), and using the same wi-fi may add to the factors leading to automatic locking of the account.

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[–] observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

They might be trying to detect ban evasion in various ways, but at least since Android 10 (released 2019), the OS restricts app access to non-resettable identifiers. That being said, Meta is known for dirty tricks, so simply using another phone number may indeed not be enough.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you have 100 applications per apartment and only one wants to do it via e-mail, then we both know what’s going to happen.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 2 weeks ago

They're also typically the laziest people in the world. The hate to expend any amount of effort and they don't get much from commissions if it's a rental.

When I was buying my house it took the sellers 5 months to sort out the paperwork. It took them any half a year to process the purchase of a single house.

[–] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

> drink verification can

[–] Nugscree@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Don't forget to do the dance

[–] Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz 45 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

That's actually infuriating. The fact that the real estate landscape is based on Whatsapp should just be illegal. Don't agree with whatsapp T&C? Go homeless. Do we need to remind who is whatsapp?

Same with cellular providers giving unlimited data on Whatsapp on a 25GB plan. Straight to jail.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Turns out, most of the globe is still charging out the ass for texting. It throws me off when hotels still closely guard their wifi and/or use access tokens.

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[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm proud of you for just being mildly infuriated about this. I'd be pure rage monster. You've got the patience of a saint!

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

A lot of mildly infuriating content is mostly infuriating but posted here due to the lack of extremely infuriating community. So post like this have the "dumbledore asked calmly" vibe.

The downside of this is when the actual mildly infuriating stuff came in it likely not gonna be well received.

[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago

For sure. I wasn't talking shit. Just commiserating about how burn-the-city-down infuriating this is in a jokey way.

[–] idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

!actually_infuriating@lemmy.world

We have a small comm there, we should start to use it.

[–] Leather@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pal, you're a few decades late to the Facebook sucks conversation.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Decades?

Facebook was launched in 2004, and I don't remember any large movement against them in 2006, that only really started going mainstream with the 2019 Facebook-Cambridge Analytica scandal.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, it started before that where employers were asking for things like your Facebook page. Now they are requiring a LinkedIn profile. Everyone requires your phone number to register with their service. Then they can arbitrarily decide to ban you from their service. There should be massive lawsuits about this.

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Are you copy-pasting the same message across many chats? If so, try varying them a little.
Bullshit, I know.

Meta is changing how they price messages sent on the WhatsApp Business API (they'll start charging for every single message now) and lately they've gone haywire trying to ban unofficial WhatsApp Automation services.
If you try to use their crap even a little faster than the average Joe, you get caught in the crossfire.

If you send the same message across a couple contacts it's already enough to flag you (especially in your case, since you're likely sending messages to contacts you never spoken to before, right?)
And if you're using WhatsApp Web it's even worse.
And now that your account already got restricted once, it's likely to keep getting worse unless you can afford to not use WhatsApp for like, a week for your number to "cool down"

I too wish my country's communications wasn't so Intertwined with this garbage.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago

I was looking at visiting Costa Rica for a bit, read that even restaurants were using WA for orders. I couldn't imagine relaying on Facebook's company policy for my business

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

This is the reason you don't 'sign in with Google' or Meta or whatever.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is the reason digital infrastructure should be controlled by the commons. And punishment for misbehaving users should be decided by the state according to due process in a procedurally fair manner, not by corporations that seek to maximize profits.

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Since when did real estate parasites, I mean agents, stop taking phone calls?

I get 3 cold calls a day from agents asking if I want to sell.

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[–] nitroemdash@lemmy.wtf 13 points 2 weeks ago

Spam their public corporate accounts with complaints, in public comments. That's the only way.

[–] RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're absolutely sure they won't take a phone call about a quarter million dollar sale or whatever?

[–] gzgz@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes I can call, but it‘s much less preferred as I‘m not a native speaker and it‘s easier for me to communicate in a written form, plus our timings can be different. Anyway I‘m not buying a house, I‘m just looking for a rental apartment, and in the country I live you can‘t pay to real estate agents for this purpose (it‘s prohibited). They are getting paid by the landlords instead, plus the rental market is pretty scarce so usually they don‘t give a fuck about you as they have a ton of inquiries from other potential renters

[–] tal@lemmy.today 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'd just SMS them and see if they respond. I mean, you're setting up a viewing. That shouldn't take that many messages.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Living as someone who's in a WhatsApp country, they absolutely won't respond to texts. Nobody texts anybody, even old people don't use SMS.

If I get an SMS I won't even see it because I have notifications disabled because all I ever got was spam.

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[–] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yep this has been happening to me as well. I really want everyone to start using Signal but trying to convince people is like pulling teeth. It's infuriating. WhatsApp fucking sucks.

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[–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We need to de couple from big tech before it's too late.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 2 weeks ago

META wants more data from you, i would ditch the app.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago

My 6 year old snap account for banned for "prohibited drug content" I'm Canadian and all I've ever done is share videos of me blazing to friends. Thankfully I have contact with the people that mattered via other means, still doesnt mean it doesn't suck

[–] japemasterBrad@programming.dev 7 points 2 weeks ago

I'm hoping the age of self hosted chat platforms comes to fruition and I can get Meta the fuck out of my life, but it's currently a hard sell between by friends

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What country are u in that u have to go through whatsapp? Have only ever used my personal cell for stuff like this, if I have to download an app to do something you can bet I ain't doing it lol. If there's anything I have learned its that if it needs an app, it doesn't fucking work.

[–] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Could be germany. WhatsApp is very widely used here, because back then in the olden days SMS flat rate was expensive. And WhatsApp was ideal, because it worked even on throttled data rates, so you could use it even if you ran out of data. So making it basically a free alternative to SMS.

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