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[–] BeKindRewind@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

We can still protest. We still have a legal right to free speech. It's not worth the hyperbole. It also perpetuates a misconception that authoritarianism doesn't allow for protests and free speech.

The model we are emulating is competitive authoritarianism. For the past four decades it has been an increasingly popular form of government.

There will be elections. There will be protests. There will be opposing parties and anti-government speech.

But the tables will be tilted heavily. They will allow small opposition wins, but the majority will stay with one party.

Speech won't be illegal, but you will be harassed. Asked questions by law enforcement. Press will be sued.

They will leverage the private/public surveillance apparatus to monitor public sentiment on all topics and how far they can push (and release pressure when needed) and what opposition to monitor/harass. Decades of data from political science, sociology, and psychology will make this an art.

It's dangerous if we perpetuate the idea that authoritarianism only exists when we can't protest or say anti-government things. The underlying institutional foundations are being changed now. The referees are being captured now. Press and citizens can legally say what they want, but the chilling effect is happening now.

We need more mobilization. Hyperbolic takes and not being clear on what authoritarianism actually looks like in the 21st century will make it harder.

[–] whereitsat@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

this nerdy declaration of facts serves what purpose? the OP's points would ring true with your average american and make them think deeper about the culture they live in and the dynamics swirling around them.

right-wingers don't care about facts and it would appear year after year after year that militantly pointing to all these obvious contradictions and mistruths never accomplishes anything, no more than it does to the religious zealot that ignores the gospels.

but anyone left of center is expected to lay down absolute undisputable facts at all times.

who does that help?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Give it a few years, and we won't even have porn...

[–] SaltyAmerican@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Come to Texas, it's nearly like that. A VPN is required to get porn

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is only because we have fire departments.

[–] CaptnKarisma@lemmy.ml 117 points 3 days ago (1 children)

On top of that you also get to own nothing.

[–] SaltyAmerican@lemmy.world 108 points 3 days ago (14 children)
[–] BeKindRewind@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Really wish people realized this 20 years ago when we actually had a chance to stop it.

Everyone sounding the alarms over the past two decades ago were ridiculed. Arguments seen as over reacting or a "my brand vs your brand" thing (really about the infrastructure and consumer rights).

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[–] Tango@piefed.ca 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

I broadly agree, but the idea that the USA doesn't have protests at all is overstating the case to an obvious degree, given the widespread coverage each No Kings protest gets, with particular emphasis on how large the crowds are. One could argue that these protests are ineffective, but the phrasing in the OP is "no protests", which is provably wrong.

I point this out because in my experience, when attempting to persuade, it's better to make 99 good points than to make 99 good points and 1 weak one. Because people hostile to your overall argument will focus on that 1 weak point and make it seem (to casual observers) like your entire argument must be that weak.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

To put in in perspective, China has over 10,000 protests every year, and the CPC responds to the vast majority of the grievances that triggered them, imprisoning corrupt local officials, fixing infrastructure, etc. That’s why the satisfaction rating with the central government is at 90+%.

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[–] Dryad@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (4 children)

…so can we try the socialism now…?

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