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TL;DR

  • Google has made it harder to build custom Android ROMs for Pixel phones by omitting their device trees and driver binaries from the latest AOSP release.

  • The company says this is because it’s shifting its AOSP reference target from Pixel hardware to a virtual device called “Cuttlefish” to be more neutral.

  • While Google insists AOSP isn’t going away, developers must now reverse-engineer changes, making the process for supporting Pixel devices more difficult.

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

Sundar Pichai strikes again!

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If Pine64 can spec out a reasonably decent prototype of a phone and Purism can sell theirs for 2 grand (not worth it), then somebody else can legit come out with something just the same. Pine64 project and Purism cannot be the only communities that can somehow come out with these kinds of tech. Better yet, more people should be jumping to help out these guys to be free from Google and Apple dominance.

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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Oneplus gang, how we feelin?

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

as a panicked graphene enjoyer, does oneplus measure up as a decent alternative or no?

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I use a Oneplus 7 pro and my rom maintainer still updates and I still get a new version once every two months or so. If you want to omit gapps, you are more than free to do so. (Crdroid)

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are selling me mr. Fudge. I still need to do a lotta research but you are def sellin me here

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The trap: He could stop builds for the OP7... tomorrow with zero warning.

That leads to my main takeaway for custom roms. Pick the phone with the most topics and replies on XDA. The more popular and liked, the more supported you'll be.

and never get attached to anything. Your phone miraculously has support, none are guaranteed it.

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago

You have now anti-sold me and hyper-enlightened me with some very worthwhile wisdom. I can not say thank you enough--I truly need more like you in my life

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Idk man.

I love my OP12. But we're switching carriers to a Verizon MVNO which "won't work" with my OP12, so I bought a Pixel 8 Pro on sale last week and need to switch over.

I'm starting to wonder if that "it won't work" is bullshit tho...I've got a Verizon SIM in slot 2 and it works fine. Maybe I'd be missing out on 5G speeds? I got 5 bars on my tmo sim and my vz sim...but my Tmo got 1.1Gbps down, and my Vz sim only got 70Mbps.

Verizon MVNO

Christ, why?

Have a couple OP 9pros and they'll be the last OP devices I buy.

There are severe bugs that OP never fixes and make using the phone for something like navigation unreliable. Battery life can be great one day and terrible the next when not even using the phone. Also OP sells carrier specific hardware. My TMO phones can't be used at AT&T or Verizon, severely limiting our options. My understanding is unlocked Pixel phones can be used on any carrier.

I really wanted to load Graphene, but even without it I'll consider a Pixel device.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So I bought a pixel device (an old one) for nothing ?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Google is doing a good job of discouraging some of us from buying Pixel phones. But they don't care because the number of people installing Graphene etc. is relatively very low.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah but what now ? I mean the Linux mobile ecosystem isn't exactly mature nor widespread

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

What about the OS part of AOSP?
Don't the ROM makers already fork AOSP to begin with?

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Unrelated: The top bar in this article indicating the article position is so fucking stupid. Guess what the scroll bar on the right hand side is for?

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