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    [–] BananaTrifleViolin@piefed.world 69 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    It's kind of a straw-man argument as no one is forcing anyone to use Linux. But using cross platform FOSS to avoid lock-in IS a good idea, and it does make transitioning to Linux easier (or indeed many other OSs - FOSS or not).

    But Linux's success on the desktop has been organic. It's a combination of platform maturity, ease of use, the breaking of windows USP in gaming, privacy and data concerns, and on the other side the enshitification of Windows, and even MacOS. The only "forcing" is arguably Microsoft & Apple pushing it's users away from their own platforms by their behaviour.

    [–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 14 points 1 week ago

    Microsoft is kind of forcing me to

    [–] tourist@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    no one is forcing anyone to use Linux

    if I had the authority I would force everyone to use linux

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    [–] inari@piefed.zip 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    No one can force you to use Linux

    [–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 118 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Me and the boys loading into a van with skimasks, crowbars and baseball bats, and a bootable installer USB:

    We'll see about that, won't we

    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Install Arch on all his computers while you tie him to a chair and force him to watch!

    [–] djdarren@piefed.social 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    no don't stop

    edit: hang on, will you make sure all the drivers are installed properly?

    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I'll have you hang head first off the ceiling and read the Arch wiki to you.

    [–] djdarren@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

    shivers with antici.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ...pation

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    [–] thisfro@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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    [–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. I just look down on them for using Windows. And you can't stop me!

    [–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 30 points 1 week ago

    This often doesn't work very well as people will blame Windows/MacOS issues on the less well integrated FOSS apps and in general the Windows versions are also often more buggy as the developers spend little to no time using Windows themselves (because who would voluntarily use that crap?).

    [–] abumarkey@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Yeah, the all or nothing approach will not make Linux mainstream. Meet people where they are.

    [–] dil@piefed.zip 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    I dualbooted and then just didnt touch windows again til a year later, I stopped using a few hobbyist programs that I had put a lot of time in but pirated and stuck to just blender really since piracy was and still is difficult for some of those programs (houdini) or the program itself causes issues and doesn't work well on linux (davinci resolve on bazzite, worked fine on cachyos tho, all amd)

    I only reinstalled windows on another drive recently to play simracing games, but ended up mostly playing the ones that work on linux rather than iracing and wrc which I booted up windows for.

    Plenty of things still don't work well or require a lot of workarounds, like producers using ableton probably shouldn't switch to linux, or vfx artists using touch designer, if s@box devs exist the dev side doesn't work on linux

    [–] dil@piefed.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    The pros just outweigh the cons, overall faster, 90% of the time im just using a web browser so compatibility isn't really an issue, that works fine. I love being able to actually customize my computer, desktop environment, etc. and feel like I have complete ownership over my device. Swap my file manager or whatever, I think anyone who has jailbroken their phone in the past would really get the appeal of linux instantly. It almost feels like using cydia when using gnome with extensions or flathub, but better.

    [–] rozodru@piefed.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Also it's a valuable teaching tool simply switching to Linux. Prior to switching I was VERY rusty with the command line. hell I was even extremely rusty with vim/emacs since on Windows most of the time I was using Sublime Text for work.

    Once I switched to Linux it made me learn the command line again, made me learn vim again, and then the revelation that doing things via the command line/terminal is actually faster than utilizing a GUI. It taught me A LOT of things. how to effectively partition drives, trouble shoot, set up things, etc. taught me languages I never really used before. Switching to Linux made me fall in love with using the computer again. It was like I was a kid back in the 90s.

    Now I can install things like Void, Arch or even FreeBSD and get them setup with a WM like DWM without having to look at a manual or anything.

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    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    Who's forcing anyone to use Linux?

    [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

    I do! I break into people's apartments, beat them up a little bit and I say that I'll be back in a couple of months and if I will see them using Windows I will kill them. Works like a charm.

    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

    Guess we all need a hobby.

    [–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    What do you do if I'm using Linux already? Beat my ass a little and then cuddle with me in bed?

    [–] Malix@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    You're obviously using a wrong distro. Beatings will continue as planned.

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    [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 6 points 1 week ago

    How did you know? Did we meet?

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    [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Probably various workplaces. Just like lots of them force you to use Windows.

    Personal machines, yep, it's all a choice.

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    [–] Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    If you want universal uptake, you need to be in the schools.

    [–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    To be in schools, you need to be in businesses.

    [–] Sirius006@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Is the year of the linux desktop also business time?

    [–] TerraRoot@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Proton for windows when?

    would actually help with old games compatibility.

    [–] bilb@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I've used a windows version of Wine to play a 16 bit Windows game before, so it's already kind-of a thing.

    [–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    For 16 bit windows games, DOSBox may work even better since it emulates vintage hardware. You just have to install windows 3.11 inside DOSBox.

    [–] bilb@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    Yes! I've done both. I played Castle of the Winds in DOSBox running Windows 3.11. What have you used it for? If it's Castle of the Winds, we're officially friends. Otherwise, eh, we'll see! ;)

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    [–] offspec@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Just run steam through WSL of course!

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    [–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

    As soon as Windows runs on Linux :)

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

    Dxvk already helps.

    [–] deacon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

    I’m forced to use CoPilot at work and chuckled when the running dialog showing my prompt was being delivered showed LibreOffice being used for initial file generation.

    [–] BurnedDonutHole@ani.social 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    But... But... But, then how they will now I use Arch? ~(぀ˆ0Λ†)γ€ο½‘β˜†

    [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Hello, this is the Arch police, btw. As you have not stated you use it btw, your license to use Arch has been revoked, btw.

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    [–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

    I don't know why, but I've gotten more resistance for suggesting that than Linux. Switched my wife to Linux no problem, another girl I know was like "do you really think it will run on my laptop with a Celeron? I will look into it." IT people I work with are like "yeah Microsoft sucks but I'm not ready".

    People get REALLY comfortable with their shitty proprietary apps though, even tech literate people. I'm not even including stuff like Adobe which are great and people have spent years using processionally. I mean like Signal, which is functionally the same as any other messaging app and takes two seconds to get up and running.

    [–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    +1 for IT people that aren't actually computer folks. I regularly am amazed what IT has zero idea about that I do in my spare time, but then I realize a normal person could be in IT. I thought you had to be a mega nerd.

    Also people won't use signal because no one is on it. EVERYONE here is on fb so they all use messenger and won't leave no matter how horrible it is.

    [–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    You're right, I just don't understand that mentality though. You don't have to stop using FB Messenger immediately if people you know use it. If you want something better though, you have to start using other products, and eventually it will be big enough that you can ditch Messenger. Plus I'm actively asking you to message me on Signal, so just do it. What is the problem? I have apps that I actively dislike and are bad for privacy, like Snapchat for example, solely for one person, just because they're busy and prefer it and I care about them and keeping in contact. Why do so few people seem to do the same for Signal, even when they complain about the mainstream apps?

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    [–] librekitty@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    cross platform meaning FOSS OS (BSDs, linux, androids)

    though it's often easy to make it support proprietary OS with little-to-no dev time, and the idea of spreading FOSS to those trapped in proprietary OSes is good too

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    [–] iocase@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

    This is what I'm hoping Europe's transition into FOSS will do for the ecosystem. If they can make a polished sovereign software stack with a well known offramp, what exactly is the value of Microsoft? Why pay that much? Especially as all of their products get worse and enshittify further.

    [–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    This is what I've been doing, most of my software whether for work or personal has a Linux version, however I'm still stuck with Adobe for now for PS+LR and can't really be bothered with dual booting. As soon as I manage to replace those in a way that works for me professionally, I'm hopping over.

    [–] dan69@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

    Eh just jump right in. You’ll most likely float, it’s been a neat experience for me thus far: having /var/cache file for updates filled up bc of updates, unable to login with my working password to my profile, Luks not working at all - these are great ways to learn how to evolve the hard way. I throughly enjoy what’s next for me in my Linux environment!

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