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I mean those people who you look at them and they have the body and responsibilities of a 43 year old but then you hear them talk about other people or other ethnicities or other situations that people are experiencing elsewhere and the person had might as well be a remorseless 3 year old that was raised wrongly.... The thing that floors me is hen you meet a very old person, Im talking in their 60s or older, and they start spewing some of the most idiotic, narcisisstic garbage a person could ever talk of... 'How have you spent all these years learning nothing?!'

Is it really THAT hard to break free of the chains of your terrible childhood and develop just a little empathy , understanding and humanity towards others? I DEFINITELY didnt have the best childhood seeing as how I was bullied and ostracized for decades , even by my parents lol, but I came to realize that 'Hurt people will hurt people.' so why am I going to go out of my way to be selfish and make more people who are hurt? But on the other hand I see , and Im sure most of you also have seen, that humans are not a very logicsl species sometimes. We have the potential to be more logical than Einstein but it doesnt always play out like that... We as a species do A LOOOT of things based on anti-logic, emotions, our pains, our traumas, or our cognitive distortions and this in turn sometimes creates more 'hurt people' ...

Im not saying that humans have gotten worse over time cause anybody here can open up wikipedia and read about all the awful things we used to do to each other , if anything we have gotten better just a little bit. But why are there STILL in the year of 2026 people who choose to just not 'grow up' ?

TL;DR too many adults , and even seniors , Ive emcountered have illogical and sometimes psychopathic opinions . Why do so many people choose to not grow up and be more understanding?

What is your take on something like this?

Edit: from what Im seeing there are couple takes I ld agree with 5o explain this phenomena

  1. there could be neurological disorders like CTE , schizoaffective disorders, etc... that causes an older individual to do and say unusual things ....and hurtful things. Cures for these are barely existent so if someone suffers from them? Theyre just out of luck and hvlave to hope they dont do anything too hurtful

  2. The overal lack of mmental health care , mental health breaks, mental health interventions , and psychiatric medication access globally. Some people are lucky and are born in a region that has such things easily. ..others sadly arent...

  3. Some people get stuck in a cycle of self destructive cognitive distortions that impairs their ability to grow. there is the possibility that it is a reactive defensive mechanism that one has in response to our very flawed societies that humans have evolved from thousands of years that although it was probably w useful reaction thousands of years ago the current world is very much differenr than it was thousands or years ago . So these cognitive distortions become detrimental more than they are beneficial. Very few people are born innately malicious and/or with an antisocial personality disorder , but a person can clearly become both of these things with enough prompting. And not all humans are the same we all have different genetics ans different stories , all because one oerson reacts in a healthy and self-loving manner to malicious stimulation that doesnt mean all other peoole will do the same. This also has the chance to lead to echo chambering or self imoosed isolation and both if these makes recovery and interventions from external sources more difficult. So basicallt both nurture and nature can play a role in the self-destructive practices abd thought process a person conducts in response to the sad and lonely society of today.

  4. Humans havent really evolved to or adapted well to modern society. Like empathy of other groups or for other groups of people on the other side of the planet may be difficult for some people to understand and learn. Humans have created and stuck tio 'outgroups' and 'ingroups' for millenia and very rarely have humans acknowledge the truth that 'We are ALL part of. the ingroup since we are ALL humans' . I dont think this completely excuses a person to treat other groups of people in awful ways though.

  5. Soceties that have encouraged ignorance all in the name of listening only to a few politicians and very rich people will clearly create more and more ignorant peoples. And this clearly occurs tor the detriment of those people who cjoose to be ignorant. Being very rich or a politician doesnt mean that you kniw everything that each human needs

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[–] MuttMutt@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A lot of this comes down to how wildly different the world was when different generations were raised.

People in their 60s and older were raised by parents who lived through extreme hardship and scarcity, where absolute self-reliance and emotional toughness were required just to survive. Empathy wasn't prioritized the same way because survival was the primary goal.

Meanwhile, younger generations were raised in a totally different era - shaped by rapid technological shifts, different parenting styles, and a heavier focus on emotional awareness and participation.

When two groups are forged in completely different environments with different core survival values, they are naturally going to view the world through vastly different lenses. Neither side easily understands the other because their starting points were miles apart.

[–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Thank you for this.

And this further proves to me how we should create a world where struggling to survive is practically impossible for all people of peaceful will. The less tha tpeople are stuck worrying about just survival the more we can worry about things that actually will improve our collective mental healths like self-actualization and climate change, and the end to all these needless wars and genocides.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 3 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Well, like everything, it's capitalisms fault. Oligarchs sway the government away from higher taxes (on them) and therefore less spent on social programs and community projects like school, higher education, community spaces, art, etc.

This leads to an increase in stupid sociopaths. Not necessarily their fault entirely. But their actions in life make the problems worse, so it's a feedback loop.

[–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Now THIS is something I can agree with.

This centering we have done of capital and its accumulation and those who have taken a large amount of resources or political connection can defintely lead to humanity and humanism becoming a less important priority in the eyes of people.

Why cant we build societies where humanity , humanity's needs , our needs for social connections and our connection to our envirinments and the planet is at the centre of everything we plan and do?

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[–] Untamed_Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There are a lot of people in the world, somr will be like that. Besides we are not logical beings, sure logic has helped us a lot but there is no logical thing to do if you are not following or chasing something usually defined by emotions. A goal, a feeling, moral compasses and a lot of other stuff.

Also sometimes people don't know they are even hurt or at least deny it which makes the healing process a lot harder if well, they don't want to heal.

I believe everyone learns something, every piece of information you process and stuff you deduce in your enviroment, people telling you stuff. Some stuff will be useless long term of course, other will be easier to forget. And if you just spend your life changing pleasure or something, without exploring different perspectives aside from your own, staying in the same circle and using bad coping mechanisms I see it unlikely you will learn much, specially if the circle discourages this stuff and critical thinking and you just distract yourself through life.

If the people around you don't grow and that's all you know, and have a possitive perspective around those people it's harder that you grow too.

Also those people are unlikely to be psycopaths. Psycopaths are usually calculative and would not let you know they don't feel empathy. Of course some psycopaths can be good people even without feeling empathy, some could not be so smart and yea yea. Sociopaths are usually more impulsive too from my understanding. I doubt those people are any of those, probably just more like "those people are different" and that's hoe they feel no empathy for them. When you see people as others, outsiders, enemies, different or maybe not even human it can be less likely for you to feel empathy for them.

or idk i don't know how humans work.

[–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

not hating on anything you wrote I think its mostly correct.

But I thought the DSM classified sociopaths and psychoapths as the same thing no? They said that theure just gonna generalize the two terms as both meaning Antisocial Personality Disorder if mymemory is correct

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I do give leeway to seniors because

  • some are miserable, which can lead to spite and close mindedness
  • the world might have been didfeeent most of their lives
[–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

but you dont know what a senior has been through in their life. Alsoo old age makes it more likely that somekne has a neurological disorder like Alzheimer's or schizophrnia and such illnesses practically guarantee that someone will act in unusual ways and say unusual things. Sometimes hurtful things.

The least you can do is give leeway to seniors who have become older and wiser with age and have learned the Golden Lesson of 'Always treat others as they or you want to be treated'

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