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[–] Kurtismayfield@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is the Fed's fault.

There should have never been less than 3 percent mortgages. They basically gave away free home equity to an entire generation. And you know what they did? Bought 2nd homes and allowed VRBO/AirB&B to thrive. Now with "normal" interest rates, none of this makes any sense.

[–] gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I absolutely despise the social media feel of AirBnB. I already hate creating more accounts. Why the fuck do I need to make a whole ass profile and tick off a bunch of interests and whatever, and then when I see a property I want to rent, send a personal message sucking up to the property owner? Yeah, no. Lots of options out there that don’t involve that bullshit ant it baffles me that anyone finds it attractive.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Seems more like data farming than renting a room

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It only took thirty minutes of looking at how AirBnb operates for me to choose a hotel, on the one occasion I considered AirBnb.

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It used to be that hotels overcharged and airbnb was a way to get around that.

Now, hotels overcharged and airbnb raised the cost of rent/housing.

It gets worse.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago

I was just really put off by the scrutiny in renting the place. And the cost…it was not cheap, none of the options were.

In a way I understand, but if I’m renting an apartment or standalone dwelling for a weekend I’d like to at least have a couple of drinks after going out and let smokers smoke outside, which is what I was looking for. We’re not talking raging party here, just winding down after a show.

The experience just looking at the option really sucked. It didn’t take long for me to decide it wasn’t the way. That was confirmed when I went the traditional option and got a great apartment right on the river that met all the requirements for hundreds less than the AirBNB options.

[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I booked a AirBNB once, and we had already driven an hour, and the owner said they never approved the booking, and "Airbnb messed up" when I called an hour into the drive

Nope, she clearly had forgotten to disable it that night. Then, after I argued, she said "oh just wait 10 mins, I'll see if I can fix it", and wanted me to sit there for 10mins in my car doing nothing.

Another time, its was NYE, it was $400 a night, and the bin there was overflowing at the BBQ, and, we bought ice cream but the freezer was frozen over completely, so it wouldn't fit.

[–] Klanky@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

AirBnB is not for ‘cheap’ stays anymore (if it ever was), it works a lot better when you use it to find quirky/interesting places to stay (like a treehouse!). People still try to use it to replace a hotel though. $100/night can usually get you a decent room with breakfast at a hotel in most areas.

[–] generic_computers@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do most people care about "quirky" places to stay, or do they just want somewhere to crash?

That being said, the only use I see for AirBnB is if you're with a group of people and you can get a whole house and you can split the cost.

[–] Klanky@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It was a cool way for my wife and I to spend a night in a treehouse for our anniversary and wasn’t very expensive (and within reasonable driving distance of our home). Maybe ‘quirky’ is the wrong word but more ‘interesting’? 🤷‍♂️

I know some people that have had good experiences using AirBnB for long term stays but overall I’m not a huge fan. It can be nice to have access to a kitchen instead of having to eat out, but for a place to just crash I’d definitely prefer a hotel.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Deposit at a hotel? I haven't seen that before.

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

These days they just put a hold on your credit card which basically has the same effect.

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's common for cheaper hotels, at least in the US. They don't call it a deposit, but an extra hold they place on your card when checking in. Probably to deter people from doing dumb stuff like smoking in a smoke-free room.

[–] TransNeko@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

actually it's for people who are so fucking gross that they smear shit on the walls. that stuff needs specialized cleaning (expensive since it's a biohazard)

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[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The hotel can get away with it because they underpay an exploited worker to do all the cleaning. AirBnBs are so particular about cleaning because the owner is either doing it themselves or hiring an independent contractor. It's bourgeoisie vs. petite bourgeoisie.

[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No.. AirBNB's are so particular because they are trying to make easy money, and, they aren't held responsible for when they don't meet standards

I booked a AirBNB NYE once, where the bin at the bbq was overflowing, and the freezer was full of ice (so couldn't use it).

If they can't be fucked cleaning, they shouldn't be operating one.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh sweet summer child. None of that's accurate.

[–] Beehaw_Girl@beehaw.org 1 points 21 hours ago

It sounds pretty accurate to me. How would you rewrite it for accuracy?

[–] BC_viper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Thats not the dumbest thing ive heard. But its very high up there.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 220 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yeah, if it's the same price why the hell would you not stay in a hotel instead of "pretend this random house is a hotel, but now with the added magic of no regulation"

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 94 points 2 days ago (7 children)
[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 62 points 2 days ago (5 children)

"Oops, left a mess (had a crumb on the counter). $350 cleaning fee."

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 64 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

People always say this, but I've never run into any issues. Booking a cabin for the family or a week long stay through airbnb can still be the more cost effective option.

I always read the reviews and rules in depth before booking. The types of places that will pull what you describe usually are pretty apparent.

Obviously it's still fucked that I the consumer have to go through all of that when Airbnb could just make some standards, but oh well.

Personally now I avoid Airbnbs except for the two cases I mentioned. Groups and extended stays. Yes extended stay hotels do exist too, but they are hit and miss imo.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 25 points 2 days ago

Ive stayed in Airbnbs like 20 times in many cities, different states, even different countries. Literally have never had any issues like what people complain about whatsoever. My cat even scratched up an (admittedly already somewhat roughed up) couch at one, not terribly but it was damaged, and the guy didnt charge me anything at all.

The only issue I take with airbnbs is that there are so many that should be free market rentals or family housing rather than short term rentals

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[–] shirasho@feddit.online 185 points 2 days ago (2 children)

AirBnb became popular when hotels inflated prices around certain events or were at capacity. Since then, AirBnb owners have jacked up prices to be more expensive than hotels, and you have to deal with the "landlord attitude." It turned from a genuine service into another cash grab scheme.

[–] Senseless@feddit.org 97 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And it also uses apartments that could've been regularly rented, worsening the housing crisis.

[–] DillDough@lemmy.zip 37 points 2 days ago

That applies to houses as well lol. For all of it, it goes even deeper too. It's not just that buildings that were going to be rented are now airbnbs, but that another avenue of revenue is once again tied to hoarding livable buildings with no plans of residing in them.

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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The basic problem of AirBNB was that it was never going to scale. Individual condo owners will never be able to compete with the efficiencies of scale of hotels. Having cleaning staff have to drive from building to building can never compete with a bunch of rooms in a single hallway.

The AirBNB concept does make sense for a few niche applications:

  1. Small rental units in locations where big hotels aren't viable. (Think remote mountain cabins.)

  2. Actual lived-in homes for people who are traveling and don't mind strangers staying in their house while they're away.

Neither of these scale. Cabin rentals can compete because it's not viable to build a hundred unit hotel on top of a remote mountain. But that market can't scale. Cabin rentals already have their own rental networks, and there are only so many of them. People renting out their actual residences can compete with hotels. You already have to pay your mortgage anyway, bringing in a short-term renter adds little marginal cost. But this model can't scale, as very few people actually want to rent out their own homes while they're out.

But AirBNB pulled the usual Silicon Valley bait-and-switch. Corner a market with unsustainably low prices, then raise them. The bait got many people to purchase rental units with the goal of renting them on AirBNB. But this was never going to be sustainable. Once AirBNB stopped subsidizing the rentals, the landlords have to raise the costs (both monetary and policy costs) to actually make the business profitable. And they simply cannot compete with the economies of scale of hotels.

[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Airbnb as a service for homeowners to rent to visitors is a great idea. Want to rent out your basement to weary travellers? Heres a service to do that.

Buying 20 single family homes to generate passive income is an incredibly stupid, antisocial, and dystopian idea.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wasn't that the original idea? I swear when my friend first used it he made it sound like crashing in a spare room.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah because it was a paid knock off of couch surfing. I made so many great friends in my trip to Europe because most of those doing it were college students or recent grads who wanted some extra cash and meet people.

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[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago

During the Plague, I had plenty of experience with both meal delivery apps (finding weird new ways how befuddled immigrants get scammed) and app scoots (it's like public transport, but more unreliable and more expensive).

Don't do app shit under normal circumstances, being the main lesson here. It's going to be full of weird fucking shit.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

AirBnB became too many people’s “passive income”.

They don’t want to take care of the property or have too many to take care of, so they treat customers like house sitters for the luxury of renting the property as well as building equity off them.

Pretty messed up. In the early days Airbnb was ok, we used it a couple times, but I don’t think I’d want to mess with it today.

[–] diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Gosh, I hate passive income. It doesnt do anything meaningful to society. Yet, the investor somehow gains more benefit from the invested resources than the people who create and use them.

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[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 79 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Don't forget having to find the cameras watching you, and text messages every 38 minutes telling you to leave 5 star reviews.

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[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Air bnb people definitely don't like that their rates don't cover property taxes and they run a deficit every month. They charge fees to stay in the black. They're just capitalist that think you have to make money on everything

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've been enjoying watching the Internet collectively bully that one AirBnB couple, Cassie and Jon.

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[–] lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Idk my airbnb had a heat alarm fitted on the ceiling directly above the stove, so when we decided to cook we discovered that it sets off above 45°C, is not a smoke alarm, and we were already overwhelmed with stress before that cataclysmic screech. I smashed it off the ceiling (because I can't think through the noise to find the latch), told them "fuck you, hated the stay," and I never got a fine. Left the pieces of alarm where they lay.

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