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frames one and three should not exist anyway. They are advertising. It was already malign before generative AI.
And Hank Green, despite the morons trying to sound clever by saying he did, did not use an LLM to write the script for the insert segment in that interview. He used a phrase, which was already a common diplomatic phrase, in a completely normal way. The phrase has made its way into ShartGPT outputs because it was already common, and people desperate to seem like they aren't fooled by LLM output are grasping at straws to find things to point at as 'tells' and turning into anti-tech-priests, consulting auguries to check for demons in the words of strangers.
There are no nice, neat tells. There are dozens of models, each with dozens of versions, each with some things that MIGHT serve as a tell, but you can't keep track of them, and the right prompt will disrupt them enough to ruin the tell, so you can give up. You can't reliably tell. That's the whole point. Enjoy living in the derealized, boiling world our annointed leaders have made. Hug your loved ones.
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frames one and three should not exist anyway. They are advertising. It was already malign before generative AI.
Advertising as a concept is needed, though. Telling someone to come to your house on Friday is technically advertising.
We certainly need to regulate the shit out of mass advertising, but I always found the small flyer on a landline pole very homely.
Inviting someone over is not advertising.
describe or draw attention to (a product, service, or event) in a public medium in order to promote sales or attendance.
Meets the definition. I just want to make sure we make distinctions between general ideas and why we actually hate the concept in the modern day.
Telling someone to come to your house
public medium
An ad is an ad. It being a bad idea doesn't change that fact 🤷
The Hank Green bandwagon hate really fucking irritates me.
The man, and his brother, have done decades of charity work. Raised millions for all sorts of progressive causes (Pizzamas). Created completely free online educational course videos that I know a large percentage here used in highschool/college (Crash Course). Produced thousands of science videos and topics (SciShow). The pair of them spend their time trying to educate and improve lives in any way they can (VlogBrothers), and give back for everything they have.
Hank makes a video that appears to have AI assistance, and people are ready to drop them on the spot like none of that matters.
Hank even apologized for his reliance on it. Gave receipts that it was never used in any of his other works. Used his experience as a cautionary tale of how AI it take over a process, and promised to do better.
Doesn't matter..... his previous decades of charity. His lifelong commitment to education... irrelevant... people want to hang him out to dry.
The VlogBrothers stretch themselves over complex topics, educational materials, charity events... everything.... FOR FREE. I don't blame Hank for trying to streamline and organize things. I think the man has taken on way more than any one person should do. I think the people jumping on him to make him some kind of pariah are nothing but self-rightious douchebag fuckheads that haven't done even a fraction of good as those two brothers have, and they know it. They want to use this one thing as though it somehow makes them superior, like they ever did a goddamn thing for anyone. Like they could even begin to understand that level of work and charity to do all of that.
The man made a mistake doing too much and these cretins are tearing him down for clout. It's fucking disgusting. Decades of positivity without controversy and yet it has afforded him no grace from the people who readily consume his content.
It's easy to do nothing wrong, it's hard to do something right. Hank Green is a treasure. His brother too.
Yeah, the hate is unwarranted.
As always, there’s people who will basically take the it’s evil no matter what path. If they feel that heavily about AI, they probably shouldn’t be using anything that uses Linux. Which is basically just about everything on the web.
Hank was using it to create some games and do research for his videos. An AI is really good at creating code and for that purpose making a small game. AI can help you research things by finding and searching for things relevant to what you want, but then you need to rely on actually understanding what is being cited.
There are obvious downsides to AI and all the data centers and everything but going about and saying no matter why AI will never use is just a fool errand.
It’s worth push pushing back on data centers and what not And I am involved in several of those movements. But AI bad is just a stupid take, Especially when Hank is using it for all intents and purposes pretty responsibly compared to some people at larger companies.
There is a difference between hating him and holding him accountable.
This post may just inspire me to finally open Gimp and make some truly horrendous comics.
I love horrendous comics, if the premise is entertaining and you keep working on it then you'll get better at it too.
But then it wouldn’t be bad art anymore.
Truly the worst outcome
You should also check out Krita. David Revoy, artist of Pepper and Carrot, has a ton of great tutorials on using it.
Consider that normal people don’t think like us nerds. They choose the shiny-looking version, not the handmade one.
I think that's changing. Nerds are often the vanguards, but the rest of the culture catches up later.
The restaurant AI slop is the worst.... even a shitty cell phone picture of your food is better using AI on your menu... i truly dont understand
I would take Word (or LibreOffice Writer) bullet point list with prices and ingredients list over "pretty" AI menu at this point
I love the high effort approach I saw in Japan, where they make little models of the food and put them in display cases (of course not all restaurants but some)
The weirdest was when I was in a zoo and there were promotional AI posters of animals they have in that zoo.
Bro just take a picture and add some text, the animal is right there.
The place where I work had a big “IT Security Week” thing. One day it was “How many security risks are on this desk?” Instead of setting up a desk and taking a picture, it was all AI.
Love how derpy they made Hank Green look
Seems like a bit of an overreaction to lump him in here tbh. Didn't he only use AI to help do research for a single video? And decided to not bother again because it sucked?
Like.. take 5 minutes to scratch out a shitty drawing on a post it before you make some AI slop. Your point can still get across and it’ll be appreciated more.
I replied to some AI post with the pic below and was blocked lol. Can’t pull the original because of that, sorry you’ll have to use your imagination to picture the slop.

Edit: just in case it wasn’t clear, I am not the author(?) of the original image. It was an AI slop graphic I just redrew on a post-it. In my opinion using AI harms the validity of any point you’re trying to make as it shows you’re unwilling to put forth effort to make your point and defend your position.
I understand the sentiment and feel somewhat similar about doing any drawings with AI, but I feel like a lot of people who say that you should draw even if it's bad, wouldn't pay attention to badly drawn things before AI slop became a thing. I definitely wouldn't have decided to visit a bar with a poorly drawn board just because intent is what's important, while sometimes I was tempted to visit a bar with artfully drawn board, that likely was commissioned from an artist. So when I hear people saying ‘do it yourself instead of slopping’ I can't shake off the feeling that it's rather being ‘do it yourself if you are good or commission from someone who is good’, because in competitive fields it is rather hard to achieve much when the only thing you have is intention
Oh man, I love good sandwich board art. That stuff is always my favorite. But yeah I get not every place has a creative employee who can spend time drawing that.
However clean text on a poster or sandwich board is far superior to AI slop (both in a moral and eye pleasing sense).
Also poorly drawn pictures can catch the eye just as well as well drawn pictures either because it can be humorous or because it’s eye catching (possibly in a bad way). But people do look either way, it’s why advertising works. I hate those stupid white billboards with black text that just say “Made you look”, because it works.
I mean, we've had gimp for free for ages now ffs.
Just ask your nerdy cousin to make something already. You know, that thing they call human interaction? Come to think of it, if you had more human interaction you might also get laid so you don't have to rely on a shitty ai gf.
Don't try stuff with your cousin though ffs.
Also web articles. The moment I see the obvious AI tells I leave and block the website from search results.
