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Spotify, the world’s leading music streaming platform, is facing intense criticism and boycott calls following CEO Daniel Ek’s announcement of a €600m ($702m) investment in Helsing, a German defence startup specialising in AI-powered combat drones and military software.

The move, announced on 17 June, has sparked widespread outrage from musicians, activists and social media users who accuse Ek of funnelling profits from music streaming into the military industry.

Many have started calling on users to cancel their subscriptions to the service.

“Finally cancelling my Spotify subscription – why am I paying for a fuckass app that works worse than it did 10 years ago, while their CEO spends all my money on technofascist military fantasies?” said one user on X.

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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Must be so nice to be so privileged as to be spoiled for choice on which fascist to support.

Spotify is the only streaming service available worldwide other than YouTube Music and Apple.

So for a lot of people it is either piracy or supporting a US tech megacorporation. Tidal, Qobuz, deezer. Cool, nice that they exist options. But most people in the planet would have to also pay a VPN and hope to not get their account banned if they want to use some of those alternatives.

It's funny really, to see how the “fascist option” for some is actually the most ethical for others.

There's always piracy of course, I suppose that is the only morally correct option always.

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[–] Balaquina@lemmy.ca 134 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I boycotted them a long time ago when I found out they donated to Trump's campaign, despite being a Swedish company.

[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 50 points 1 week ago

Wow didn't know that.

[–] positiveWHAT@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago

I also newly started boycotting them for the same reasons. Plus they don't give enough to the musicians, and support AI music.

[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago

Been off Spotify since they have Rogan his platform, which contributed to Trump also.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's legal through a US subsidiary if the funds come from US operations. The morality is questionable though

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

when due process is completely ignored, then you can be pretty sure that "legal" has no meaning anymore. especially seeing as how the people who are supposed to be enforcing these "laws" are the ones who are ignoring them

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[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 11 points 1 week ago

Not to mention giving 100s of millions of dollars to fund Joe Rogan and his extreme right-wing propaganda.

[–] killerscene@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

thats when i cancelled as well. this guy seems like such a fucknut

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Same, took some legwork to get files for my 700-song library, but we did it. Fuck 'em.

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[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

“Finally cancelling my Spotify subscription – why am I paying for a fuckass app that works worse than it did 10 years ago, while their CEO spends all my money on technofascist military fantasies?” said one user on X.

You shouldn't be "paying for a fuckass app that works worse than it did 10 years ago" regardless of anything an executive has done. Be less lazy and cancel subscriptions to shitty services.

Also, if a CEO doing a bad thing is a dealbreaker for them, why the fuck are they on twitter?.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 74 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I think one of the most toxic things on Lemmy is the prevalence of judging normies for using incredibly popular services and ascribing it to a character defect instead of life just being too complex for most people to be able to prioritize exploring more ethical technology choices.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You're not wrong. There are lots of holier-than-thou types around here.

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

Agreed, most comments are miserable, toxic, old man yells at cloud, energy. More and more, so.

[–] noobface@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

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[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

I get where you're coming from, but it's not like there aren't multiple obvious alternatives (and not just on the fediverse). And someone being clued in enough to boycott Spotify should have no trouble finding those alternatives. Additionally, the platform being owned by an outright Nazi should give even the most out of touch people pause.

But agreed that people could stand to be a bit more tactful about it and not immediately go on the attack.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Be less lazy

"Damn this sucks, I'm doing the thing"

"Hey you lazy stupid fuck, go back in time and do it sooner"

Why is the Internet like this?

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dude, you should have stopped using Spotify when they let Joe Rogan on their platform… or when they started hosting fake music.

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago

Or because they pay artist way less than any one else, while having lower quality audio.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Always worth keeping in mind that these fuckers are selling snake oil to one another under the guise of national security.

This technology is dangerous not because it works as advertised but because it creates a vacuum of responsibility for when the very manual killing starts

Israel's Lavender AI is a great example of this in action. It doesn't work in any meaningful way. All it does is label casualties in a bombing run as "terrorists" after the fact.

[–] EstonianGuy@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago

Spotify CEO also donated millions to trump campaign.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (11 children)

What are the Spotify alternatives people recommend?

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

IIRC Tidal and Qobuz should be good alternatives

[–] Jonnynny@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Thanks.

I was talking to my wife this morning about this thread and the Qobuz recommendation was just what she needed to replace and cancel Spotify. She was able to import her playlists from her Spotify account and she's been commenting for the past couple hours about how much better the audio quality is.

[–] FriskyDingo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Qoobuz had the most horrific app I've ever experienced.

Couldn't even search a song in a playlist bad.

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[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Napster, bearshare

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Tidal is cheaper and better quality, Deezer is good, too.

[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If you're technically inclined, self-host navidrome or jellyfin.

If you just want music and don't care about the streaming part, bandcamp (although it does have some basic streaming I believe.

If you want streaming and aren't technically inclined, Tidal.

[–] NotProLemmy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago
[–] Lanske@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Qobuz is great. It's a french company, they pay the artists well and the music is in high quality

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago
[–] oce@jlai.lu 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have been using Deezer because it was local for me, France. At the beginning you could upload your own collection to share with others, it was fun. Now it's basically the same as the others, I think it pays artists a little bit more than Spotify. Also just learned that it is now majorly owned by some US investment fund. 🫠 At least it's not directly funding terminators yet?

[–] FriskyDingo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

This is where I'd have recommended deezer, but they shit the bed on their mobile app.

+1 for tidal

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago
[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 16 points 1 week ago

“Said one user on X.”

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Been thinking of booting them for a whilst. Just cancelled. Better late than never.

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[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The best time to start boycotting was when they started platforming a conspiracy theorising, testicle headed manosphere peddler. The next best time is not I suppose.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

You're way to late then too. The perfect time to act on this was back in Iraq with that prince dick head with xi.

Also we all should have taken a harder stance at celebrity using these private security companies. Drake's in Toronto blocking roads so he can get all 16 armored cars on to the 401.

Lots of people really defend the stuff by saying "look how much money they bring to the city, we can ignore it" but at the end of the day, it's growing a new industry. I don't get why we don't call it out more like these fucks need to wait in traffic like the rest of us. I don't care who they are or how much money they make. Roads are a public space and shared by everyone equally.

[–] atmorous@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Out of every company I would have never expected Spotify to be one of the ones to want that

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is possible to get off Spotify.

What you can't buy legitimately via other means you can use a Youtube-To-MP3 converter to rip and add the file to your music library.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You're saving an already low-quality stream into a lossy format. Just use Soulseek.

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Don't have high end audio equipment anyway, I can't tell the difference on 99% of songs.

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