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Schools and lawmakers are grappling with how to address a new form of peer-on-peer image-based sexual abuse that disproportionately targets girls.

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[–] Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Jfc the replies here are fucking rancid. Lemmy is full of sweaty middle aged blokes in tech who hate it when anyone tells them that grown men who pursue teenage girls who have just reached an arbitrary age are fucking creeps, so of course they're here encouraging the next generation of misogynist scum by defending this shit, too.
And men (pretend to) wonder why we distrust them.

Ngl, I'm only leaving reply notifs on for this one to work on my blocklist.

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Yeah there’s some nasty shit here. Big yikes, Lemmy.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (5 children)

So is this a way to take away rights by making it about kids?

I mean what the fuck. We did much less and got punished right? It didn't matter if we were on the property. Schools can hold students accountable for conduct with other students.

The leaded-gas adults of the time had no problem dealing with the emergence of cell phones. It was a distraction. They didn't need lawmakers to call it something specific. My Pokemon cards caused fights and were banned. No lawmakers needed.

The problem is surely with the interaction between parents and schools. Or maybe it's just the old way of thinking. Maybe it's better to have police and courts start taking over discipline in schools.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

My mama always told me, that if someone makes a deepfake of you, then you make a deepfake of them right back!

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In the bible, it says, and I quote: "If a deepkfake of you is made, you shall give the creator more material to create deepfakes"

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[–] danciestlobster@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I don't understand fully how this technology works, but, if people are using it to create sexual content of underage individuals, doesn't that mean the LLM would need to have been trained on sexual content of underage individuals? Seems like going after the company and whatever it's source material is would be the obvious choice here

[–] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I agree with the other comments, but wanted to add how deepfakes work to show how simple they are, and how much less information they need than LLMs.

Step 1: Basically you take a bunch of photos and videos of a specific person, and blur their faces out.

Step 2: This is the hardest step, but still totally feasable for a decent home computer. You train a neural network to un-blur all the faces for that person. Now you have a neural net that's really good at turning blurry faces into that particular person's face.

Step 3: Blur the faces in photos/videos of other people and apply your special neural network. It will turn all the blurry faces into the only face it knows how, often with shockingly realistic results.

[–] gkpy@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Cheers for the explanation, had no idea that's how it works.

So it's even worse than @danciestlobster@lemmy.zip thinks, the person creating the deep fake has to have access to CP then if they want to deepfake it!

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago

AI can generate images of things that don't even exist. If it knows what porn looks like and what a child looks like, it can combine those concepts.

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[–] lime@feddit.nu 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

not necessarily. image generation models work on a more fine-grained scale than that. they can seamlessly combine related concepts, like "photograph"+"person"+"small"+"pose" and generate plausible material due to the fact that all of those concepts have features in common.

you can also use small add-on models trained on very little data (tens to hundreds of images, as compared to millions to billions for a full model) to "steer" the output of a model towards a particular style.

you can make even a fully legal model output illegal data.

all that being said, the base dataset that most of the stable diffusion family of models started out with in 2021 is medical in nature so there could very well be bad shit in there. it's like 12 billion images so it's hard to check, and even back with stable diffusion 1.0 there was less than a single bit of data in the final model per image in the data.

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[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Aren't there already laws against making child porn?

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'd rather these laws be against abusing and exploiting child, as well as against ruining their lives. Not only that would be more helpful, it would also work in this case, since actual likeness are involved.

Alas, whether there's a law against that specific use case or not, it is somewhat difficult to police what people do in their home, without a third party whistleblower. Making more, impossible to apply laws for this specific case does not seem that useful.

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