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I was talking to one of my friends and he mentioned staying home on July 4, citing how there are a lot of really ugly things going on in the US.

After thinking about this myself, I'm starting to feel the same way. Instead of being proud of the country, I'm feeling like I'm just another wallet that companies and the government are trying to suck all the money out of.

The cost of living is going up, the housing market is a nightmare, I don't feel very confident in our government at all, the job market is a nightmare...

I think I'll be staying home this year too... anyone else?

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Patriotism leads to nationalism and racism. Fuck patriotism.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What the fuck would I have to be proud of? The US has been on a downward trend for a long time and that's accelerating

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[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

The only celebration I will engage in this year is protest or subversive guerilla action

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 23 hours ago

I'm a pyro by nature, and love things that go boom. But yeah, not doing anything tomorrow.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Celebrating America hasn't been something to be proud of since before 2001. We had a couple of high points during Obama, but nothing that tipped the scales.

I'm personally disgusted by this place, and anytime I see someone with an American flag anywhere on their person or property, I immediately assume they're a conservative and I think lesser of them. I know that this isn't a reality, but that is what the American flag means to me, and I assume quite a few others.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Absolutely like that for me. Or Christians. If I know you're a Christian within 15 min of meeting you, we are not going to be friends.

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[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I thought you guys don't celebrate it that much any more? Heard it got replaced with a Trump Birthday Military Parade Day or someshit. And it sucked so much that nobody is doing holidays anymore. Sorry, I'm in Europe, the news are coming in slowly from the US these days

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[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

While walking the dog I keep tabs on houses that have flags up, and there has been an uptick for about a month now. I assume it’s for the 4th, but I’m curious who will keep their flags up.

I’ve also noticed that some people keep putting theirs up then taking them down, and I wonder what changes…

[–] SpicyTaint@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's been decades since I've cared about the 4th as an actual holiday. Now it's just a day that I don't have to work.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Good day to march on your White House, perhaps…

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Nobody i know is hosting or attending a formal celebration, aside from one person attending a "Fuck Trump" bbq instead.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago
[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Yeah I am sitting here in my shitting rotting trailer that I own thinking to myself fuck America.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

After thinking about this myself, I’m starting to feel the same way. Instead of being proud of the country, I’m feeling like I’m just another wallet that companies and the government are trying to suck all the money out of.

Always have been, always will be.

The cost of living is going up, the housing market is a nightmare

Don't worry, once they deported or killed all the ~~Jews~~ illegals the prices will surely come down.

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[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

I still have hope, until I am forced to emigrate I won't be giving up on us. This country at one point saved my ancestors from doom, I believe it can again. It's actually the "America sucks" crowd we need the most. In the words of AOC: resist, make them make us.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Call for independence from everything GOP and Trump on July 4th?

[–] DearMoogle@lemmy.today 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think that’s normal considering everything going on.

By the way, I live in the CA bay area. Interestingly I went grocery shopping today and no kidding -I felt like I was in a small town in the midwest or something. I looked around and it was mostly older white people shopping, like you couldn’t help but notice. I told my bf, wtf are we in Idaho or something lol this doesn’t feel like the bay area?

I think there’s a combination of people being tired of increasing inflation and burnt out by the barrage of shit going on in the news. I don’t imagine minorities, particularly immigrant families are feeling very patriotic right now. Or people are straight up worried about ICE kidnappings. Which by the way, I heard from a neighbor that ICE has been walking into the hospital she works at and waiting outside to snatch people. Terrible…

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've never felt patriotic. It's not like I chose to be here and, frankly, the more I learned about the rest of the world, the more I dislike about my own home.

Also fireworks are boring af unless you're manipulating them to be more dangerous and blowing things up. Like hammering down a whistler and tossing it into a porta potty where an ICE agent is taking a shit.

[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

I’m traveling outside the US. Got a decent price on the flights too

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

As if there was a reason to celebate that cancer country any other year

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm surprised there aren't massive protests scheduled for July 4.

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[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I haven't "celebrated" the fourth in nearly a decade for this reason. On top of that fireworks are pretty bad for everything and those with PTSD.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

I haven't been necessarily patriotic for a long time because why pledge allegiance to a single nation? The only reason I really care about July 4 is the fireworks. It's more tradition than anything that I see them.

Anyways, both of his terms make me feel vindicated in not being patriotic in a country.

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago

Havent felt proud to be an American in a long while. I'm proud of loving thy neighbor as myself, not lining the pockets of billionaires. I hate that I'm powerless to do much. Representative democracy? My ass. No one represents me. They're all aristocrats. "it's one banana, Michael. What could it cost, $10?"

I'm not bitter about it at all. /s

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Going to be spending the 4th building guillotines in my garage

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