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We all see and hear what goes on over there. Kim will execute kids if they don’t cheer hard enough at his birthday party or something? He’s always threatening to nuke countries and is probably has the highest domestic kill count out of any world leader today.

So I ask? Why don’t any other countries step in to help those people. I saw a survey asking Americans and Escaped North Koreans would they migrate to North Korea and to the US if given the chance (hypothetical for the refugees). And it was like <0.1% to 95%. Obviously those people live in terror.

Why do we just allow this to happen in modern civilization? Nukes on South Korea? Is just not lucrative to step in? SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME PLEASE!?

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[–] kittyjynx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

One thing I have not seen brought up yet is that Seoul is within artillery range of North Korea. Even if North Korea didn't have nukes they could bombard the city with conventional arms or even chemical weapons and kill hundreds of thousands in the first day or two.

[–] Mustard@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh absolutely the west would love to effect regime change in North Korea. Morale win, keep the military industrial complex going, grow the economy, get rid of some pesky poors in combat, maybe hoover up some natural resources.

The problem is China, NK is strategically important to them as a source of said natural resources and as a buffer zone against South Korea. Plus lots of slave labour, global economies can never have enough of that.

So yeah, messing with North Korea means messing with China. Despite some real grade A morons in power nobody has been that stupid yet.

[–] Leet@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

America was never about helping the people of the world. Many who believe that are mostly victims of propaganda. It’s all about American interests. If it’s in their interest they will give some reason like liberating a people as a pretence to enable military action.

Also to directly answer the question, they have nukes trained on Seoul, have the backing of China which considers it a buffer against western influenced south kr

[–] PahdyGnome@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Short answer is that NK is pretty much self-contained. Occasional Kim might rattle his sabre but no one is too worried about it. Until they start making serious threats to the stability of other countries it's just a case of leave well enough alone.

Sure it sucks what the people of NK have to endure but it's not for other countries to tell them how they should live unless they directly ask for help or start threatening the sovereignty of other countries.

As someone else in the comments mentioned, WW2 wasn't an intervention to protect the German citizens that were being persecuted, it was a reaction to German invasion of other nations.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (3 children)

World powers typically let countries do whatever they want to their own citizens, it's only when they do stuff to people of other countries that they get involved.

[–] xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Simple and to the point. WW2 didn't happen just because the Nazis were killing Jews, it happened because Hitler decided to barge into other countries.

[–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago

More like when it threatens some status quo or be inconvenient for them to deal with or might cause a shift to some power dynamics.

I mean nobody(western leaders) gives a fuck about whatever is going on in Africa and Asia. And it's quite literally mindboggling how the shit in Urkaine and Palestine is still ongoing without any major consequences for the aggressors other than mayyyybe harsh words or hurrdurr sanctions. Soo..as long as it does negatively not impact then, world leaders don't give a shit about what other countries do.

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[–] Wahots@pawb.social 8 points 2 days ago

Nobody wants to do that. North Korea is a shithole-class country that hates SK, is propped up by China, and to a lesser extent, Russia, who basically use them as slave labor and cannon fodder for their illegal war in Ukraine.

While NATO could easily steamroll NK, SK is right there and would get heavily damaged in a war. And then SK would probably have to take care of a ton of starving, brainwashed, uneducated people and a bombed flat country. Nobody wants to fix them, and superpowers like China are actively working against peaceful initiatives like reunification.

It's an injustice for the world, but there's much bigger fish to fry on the world stage right now. Existential, extinction-class threats like climate change and nuclear war. Democracies fighting tooth and nail against totalitarianism, like Ukraine. And western countries in various fights against the predictable but extremely annoying rise in fascism.

[–] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 118 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Generally countries in the west only get involved in conflicts if they get something out of it, be it directly via getting wealth from the country, or indirectly like curbing successful non-capitalistic economies before they catch on and their own people start questioning the billionaires. The "we're there to liberate people" is just marketing speech.

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

Jesus Fucking Christ. Stop trying to "liberate" other countries. Don't you understand what that entails? Rampant slaughter of civilians followed by propping up a colonial regime. How many times are you gonna try this shit before you learn? When has it ever worked?

At least DPRK minds it's own business. Imo, the country most in need of a war of liberation is the United States, which not only has a backwards, oppressive regime that's disappearing people off the streets, but also has been directly involved in multiple wars of conquest and aggression, and indirectly involved in more. Whatever you wish upon Korea, let it happen here, let's let China or someone bomb our cities and set up a government they like. Will you be greeting them as liberators? Not so fun when the shoe's on the other foot, is it?

Someday I hope y'all are able to see yourselves for the warmongers you are. I have no idea how liberals are able to convince of themselves as "peace-loving" while saying shit like this.

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[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 83 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Generally frowned upon to invade countries.

Ludicrously costly. Your tax payers will want to know why it's more important than everything else you do with their money.

Immense suffering. Mostly by the people you're trying to liberate but also your own troops and their families.

They have nukes and could probably blow up at least a few regional cities. If the regime is threatened they will most likely use them.

South Korea or China or Russia are the only countries with land borders. China and Russia find NK useful to have arround to annoy US. Seoul is within artillerty range of the border.

Building up a new state in it's place is very difficult. Remember how the Taliban took back power about 15 minutes after the US left Afghanistan?

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[–] boolean_sledgehammer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Feel free to pitch the idea to congress. It will cost somewhere in the realm of trillions of dollars to invade, occupy, and rebuild North Korea. We're talking an occupation lasting decades. A full time military presence for the foreseeable future as North Korea rebuilds something resembling a functional democratic society.

Don't get me wrong, their military would get absolutely bodied in a full on shooting war with any sort of NATO-esque military coalition. But they have a sizable entrenched force with more than a few functional nuclear weapons. It would cost A LOT of lives.

So, that's the bill. If you think you can convince congress to go for it, go nuts.

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[–] Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Same reason why no one does anything about the atrocities that happen within the US.

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 days ago (60 children)

We all see and hear what goes on over there.

Bullshit.

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