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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Somewhere along the line Brave tricked people into thinking they weren't owned by a couple of really bigoted dudes.

In fairness Brian Bondy might be a good dude, but Brendan Eich sucks.

[–] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Do you have a source that resumes everything bad about Brave in one neat package ? I am tired of searching for sources everywhere and not finding everything I need each time someone ask me about it

[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 11 points 5 days ago

No idea it's been plain to me is Brave is kind of dodgy to the point I've never even tried it.

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

cause most people just google a chrome alternative. they dont do research. brave gives them a surafce level adblocking, and they feel fine with it.

[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't Firefox still have brand recognition though? I'd have thought even people who answer "google" to "what browser do you use" would have heard of firefox, and therefore looked it up rather than using the neurons to ask, "what alternative browsers are there?"

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Firefox is some other type of engine that renders pages differently and doesn't always work the same but brave has Chrome underneath it so it's the same thing and it's fine and uses all the same extensions and you like it

[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

A good chunk of websites are just broken with Firefox and their not even broken in obvious ways. Some times they fail to load, sometimes they render weirdly, sometimes their just unresponsive. I use Firefox as my main browser but I always have something chromium based as my backup for when a website I wanna use just doesn't work. A lot of the time I don't even think to use it and assume the site would be broken on chromium as well but nope. Its almost always Firefox:/.

[–] 1stQ@feddit.org 5 points 5 days ago

Haven't had trouble with Firefox for a long time. Sure, I also have chrome sitting somewhere on the hard drive as a backup but didn't need to use it for months if not years. Started to use Waterfox on one pc and I'm happy with that one too.

[–] CaptSneeze@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Can you give any examples where we can see these differences?

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[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Well reading comments here has me going to download Vivaldi to replace Brave.

Thank y'all!

[–] firipu@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

How vivaldi isn't more popular with tech users that want to use chromium totally eludes me. The browser is super moddeable and the devs have so far been nothing but super open and correct to their community. I don't think there's been a single vivaldi "scandal" of note. It literally opera before that went down the drain, and is a better browser on top.

The whole "it's not open source" mantra has also been thoroughly addressed.

Also don't get me started on the brave love. It feels astroturfed. I do not get how you can genuinely shill that browser...

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[–] cepelinas@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 days ago

You literally ignored the whole comment section, you madlad.

[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

promotion, especially as a 'security focused' browser with 'uncommon' features.

[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Because vanilla Firefox has to be tinkered with to get the best out of it and the average user is not able to do it

[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (6 children)

As a user of Firefox from 1-3 and quantum to current.... What exactly are you tinkering with? Install ublock and be done.

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[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

In what way?

I switched recently to Librewolf, but as a long time Firefox user (of which Librewolf is a fork anyway) it didn't seem unusable out of the box. There are some settings for privacy and studies etc you mght want to change, but they are all very obvious in the GUI preferences.

I did personally go into about:config to set a few things, like not allowing searches from the address bar because I'm weird, but what makes Firefox no good for the average user?

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[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Any more so than vanilla Chrome?

[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago

No, in fact the average user doesn't tinker with Chrome either

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I have Firefox but gave Brave a shot too. Works fine for me. I'll use anything that gets around YouTube ads.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 days ago

Try vivaldi. Much less fuckery than Brave

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I got my dad to try Firefox and he said it drained his phone battery like no tomorrow, so now he uses brave because it doesn't

I've been using Firefox for years on my phone with no such problems, so I can't exactly verify what he's saying

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[–] CheerfulPassionFruit@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Ive browser hopped a bit, Im currently on brave because it has a good vertical tabs integration and works decently well. Having to use another browser because a page won't load correctly is infuriating to me. After reading the comments here, I'd like to switch. I'm guessing Firefox is my best option huh?

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 days ago

Vivaldi is nice. Created by the Opera creators. Cookie removal, antitracking, etc out of the box.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I was browser hopping a bunch lately. Stayed on Zen for a while but setting it up for multiple devices was a pain and there was always a new update that broke a mod, so I kept looking. Somehow I landed on edge, mostly due to how it did vertical tabs. But then I recently found out that standard Firefox pretty much does them just like that now, so I'm on that now.

Edit: changed some words that were incorrectly autocorrected

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