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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

...Let's play devil's advocate.

Isn't it a terrible architecture for agents?

The ideal distro would be:

  • A strictly immutable base configuration.

  • "Rings" of access privilege everywhere, enforced across the whole OS. Something like Qubes OS.

  • Top tier, security audited, prepackaged setups for vllm, llama.cpp, various agenic frameworks and such, something better than a massive docker install for every one.

  • Multiple versions of patched/optimized Python akin to Clear Linux or CachyOS.

  • A kernel/scheduler tuned for compute and low IO latency.

  • Good Nvidia/rocm/Intel support, which Arch does provide, admittedly.

  • Simple, minimalistic desktop UI that is easy for an agent to interpret in a screenshot, and easy for it to operate. Ideally with integrated hooks.

  • And an “easy” headless mode for less overhead

  • Prepackaged, open source agenic browsers and embeddings servers.

  • Links and guides for more niche machine learning/data processing projects, instead of to the most popular ones that already have official guides.


Omarchy has... precisely none of that? Except for what in inherits from Arch.

Lack of any containerization in particular is one reason OpenClaw (the previous Twitter AI fad) was such a flaming mess.

[–] abc@suppo.fi 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Seems like their AIs had some of the same ideas you're having here, since about a week or two ago they had an issue open about moving the basis of Omarchy over to Nix.

That got buried somehow, cannot find it in Github anymore.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Wouldn’t switching to Nix nuke existing Omarchy installs?

This is a microcosm of why this is so perplexing to me. If Alibaba really wants an agenic OS, there are far better starting points than Omarchy.

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't trust an agent outside of a capabilities-based OS, like if Genode was ready for production. I don't even use AI at all, but if I was actually using agents, I'd want guarantees that not only do you not have access to certain things, you cannot properly conceive of how to access them, it is utterly beyond the agent.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Well, yes, exactly! You shouldn’t trust it.

If this was any other computer program that could execute arbitrary system commands unreliably, standard procedure would be to sandbox the living snot out of it.

It’s baffling to me that “AI” is somehow an excuse to ignore this. Hence that’s exactly what I mean: I’d want rock solid guarantees of containerization, and granular scoping.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It can't not have containers, right? Or an I missing something?

Honestly I've not delved much into this distro, I only hear bad things about the author and a lot of companies throw money at it

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Well, as we saw with OpenClaw, 95% of users won’t set up containers and scopes if it isn’t a preconfigured default.

So yeah, Arch can do containers just fine. But if this is an “agenic” OS preconfigured to use agents, it better do that by default, out of the box, and MAKE the user scope its access.

Alright this is getting out of hand.

[–] fum@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 days ago

This was not on my bingo card

[–] a_good_hunter@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fascists helping a fascist. What a shock

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I keep wondering where all the left leaning billionaires are. Why can't they use their money for political and project influence, like the far right ones do?

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It’s literally impossible to become a billionaire if you have morals and empathy.

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Hmm, I disagree, somebody could inherit that money and they don't necessarily have to share the political opinions of their parents. Famously Elongated Musketeer's children all hate him.

But also what about the non billionaires?

Why don't all the billions of left leaning people worldwide donate 1$ each to a fund that serves their agenda in politics and tech?

I know it's happening on a smaller scale, but why can it not be a strong and concentrated push like what is happening with the fascists?

If there was a push of all of us doing it, I would eagerly donate hundreds of $ per month to a left leaning, anti AI linux distro and the same amount for an organization like "WEF but not fascist".

But every time I donate to something like that it has no tangible effect, because the couple of people that do it with me are not enough.

[–] chewypoops@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How is it that nobody understands that NixOS is the ideal agentic OS.

It's declarative. It can become whatever you want just by tacking an include to a minimal configuration.nix.

I have a laptop set up right now that is headless until you tell an agent what kind of computer it should be.

[–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Elaborate please on the nix setup you have

Edit I wasn't joking, I am interested since I just switched to nix and am wondering about your workflow

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So what are they actually doing with all this money they’ve raised?

Like, why all the sponsors? We can look at Mitchell Hashimoto and Ghostty to see that these rich CEOs can retire and build freely. I don’t get it.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

Like anything involving fascists, it’s a corrupt grift for self-enrichment.

Damn didn't know Alibaba was fascist

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

God phoronix forums are toxic.

Wouldn't an ideal agentic OS be entirely CLI? Or MCP based interface? With a fucking chat like? What?

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

3m in AI world is literally nothing. You could spend that in a few days training a model. 3m is basically a token amount for marketing purposes. This is not a serious deal in any way.

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