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[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 16 points 1 hour ago

https://keepandroidopen.org/

Google says "power users" can "still install" unverified apps. Here's what that actually looks like:

Delve into System Settings, find About Phone

Tap the build number seven times to enable Developer Mode

Dismiss scare screens about coercion

Enter your PIN

Restart the device

Wait 24 hours

Come back, dismiss more scare screens

Pick "allow temporarily" (7 days) or "allow indefinitely"

Confirm, again, that you understand "the risks"

Nine steps. A mandatory 24-hour cooling-off period. For installing software on a device you own.

Worse: this flow runs entirely through Google Play Services, not the Android OS. Google can change it, tighten it, or kill it at any time, with no OS update required and no consent needed.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 1 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago)

But does it allow you to backup your app list to move to a new device? This is why I moved to obtainium from Fdroid. In reading the article, I don't see a mention of a backup feature.

[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 1 points 44 minutes ago

So F-droid "evolves" to become F-droid Basic?

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 15 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Can anyone ELI5 for the nontechy how things are going to work once Google rolls out the new bullshit? I'm seeing so many of my apps put out notices that they will no longer work once Google goes through with the verification system. Will I still be able to install shit through f droid?

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Will I still be able to install shit through f droid?

yeah, with extra hoops the first time though (24 hr wait etc etc)

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I already have developer options turned on, are they gonna fuck me out of that again? :/

I really hate this shit

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Ya there's going to be wait periods to turn on developer options, and it sucks cause some apps don't work with developer options turned on, like banking apps for example.

This whole thing sucks, imagine on your laptop not being able to install software and only being locked to getting everything through the Microsoft Store App.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 91 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Nice. There's just a FOSS alternative for almost everything these days. I get 80% of my apps from F-Droid.

[–] morto@piefed.social 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The only non foss apps that I use are banking apps and whatsapp (forced to use it...). Everything else is foss.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Look at Beeper as a alternative, let's you bridge your WhatsApp chats.

https://www.beeper.com/

[–] chrislowles@lemmy.zip 1 points 42 minutes ago

I don't take advantage of Beeper nearly as much as I should, I saw that they give you a Matrix handle when you sign up which I think is cool.

[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 1 points 46 minutes ago

The only way you should trust anything bridging is if you self host it.

Matrix with WhatsApp bridge is the only way to properly use that.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 18 points 7 hours ago

Same. Its great!

[–] mamg22@sh.itjust.works 26 points 6 hours ago

Been using it since the alpha came out, absolutely love what they've done with the app. The installation flow is much smoother with the instant prompt for confirmation, the more granular categories and improved search make browsing so much better. I tried other stores before, but I couldn't get myself to like any of the actively maintained ones, v2.0 is good for me.

[–] statelesz@slrpnk.net 43 points 8 hours ago (7 children)

Isn't everybody using Droid-ify anyway?

[–] ShutUpWesley@piefed.zip 36 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I've just been rawdoggin it with the OG f-droid app

[–] Redjard@reddthat.com 2 points 1 hour ago

mines been on no updates for years after they removed the ability to downgrade apps inexplicably.

[–] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly the new ui is nice enough I may be switching back to the official F-droid app.

We'll see where I stay. I love the simplicity of droid-ify but sometimes have some issues with minor jank

[–] berty@feddit.org 1 points 24 minutes ago

That was the reason I switched back to F-Droid. Had serious problems with updating and stuff, no problems with F-Droid so far. I don't use it that much anyways, most of my apps are already installed. When searching for new apps F-Droid has a big category selection which is nice.

[–] xylol@leminal.space 13 points 6 hours ago

I get pretty much everything through obtainium

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

I love that I've never heard of Droidify. Open source offers a buffet of alternatives.

[–] ZoDoneRightNow@kbin.earth 1 points 3 hours ago

First I've heard of it tbh. I'll check it out, thankyou

[–] amlor@piefed.social 14 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

No. Team neo store represent

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Does Neo Store have a way to make apps only use the official F-Droid repo for updates unless you downloaded them from a different one? Because it seems to just want to update from any repo, so I ended up splitting F-Droid Basic for official F-Droid apps and Neo Store for IzzyOnDroid and other third party repos.

[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.today 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

+1 for neo store. I wonder if the new f-droid overhaul catches up as neo is pretty fantastic.

Edit, just looked at the screenshots, looks better than before but I'll stick with neo.

[–] chjsou@quokk.au 20 points 7 hours ago

Almost exclusively use F-Droid. Great news!

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 18 points 8 hours ago

When you find an app, F-Droid 2.0 will make the installation process easier. Google has long put up roadblocks for sideloaded apps, citing the security implications. This is also the rationale behind its upcoming developer verification system. For now at least, apps will be easier to install from F-Droid thanks to the use of Google’s pre-approval API.

That answers my question if those smoother installs already account for Google's insistence in making "sideloading" way more annoying. They do not.

[–] shirasho@feddit.online 6 points 6 hours ago

I've only started using F-Droid recently, but it's UI is a clusterfuck. I welcome an overhaul.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I have been using droidify for some time now since the updates and install part has always been a bit weird and the notifications too. Hope it is better now. Not super happy with my current option either.

What I really want is a way to use it properly on the TV, because all the current store apps are so, but so so bad and horrible in a screen controlled with a remote control that is almost a joke.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

This kind of news always terrifies me. Will see though.

[–] W4nd3r3r@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

well ... i'll stick with droidify