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Google’s Android, the world’s most widely used mobile operating system, started life as open-source software. In its quest for ever-greater profits, the tech giant has been gradually eroding Android’s open-source nature over the last decade.

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Maybe it was better when Android phones didn’t get updates. Eh? 😉

[–] usernameunnecessary@lemmy.zip 156 points 1 week ago (23 children)

Unfortunately the Android experience is getting more and more bloated and users' freedom to tinker with their phones or sideload apps is getting more and more difficult. The Play Store is riddled with more ads than useful content. Just try searching for something, and oftentimes more than half of your screen is ads.

I've been with Android since the start and I hate what Google is reducing it to. It pains me that the only viable alternative is Apple and I feel trapped.

[–] PushButton@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Funny enough, having Microsoft making the Windows Phone again would make a 3rd player, and maybe some competition in the market.

I don't know many companies that have the resources to fight in this arena right now...

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Support devices like the Liberux Nexx or the pinephone, especially if you are a developer!

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 63 points 1 week ago

Google should be broken up and its leadership fined into oblivion for anti competitive behavior

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (8 children)

android peaked with the pixel 2. then everyone went overboard on bezel-less displays and fast refresh rates and smart assistant services and brought the whole damn thing crashing down.

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[–] VicksVaporBBQrub@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Can I get a rundown of the few non-flagship phonemakers that are currently out there? I have heard of The Nothing Phone. Are there more companies that put together Androids to operate within the US?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

i have oneplus12r this my first non-pixel phone, you might want to visit the oneplus sub to look for other peoples experience. if you are looking for good deal on phones, online stores like swappa is a good start. i like the battery life of it. midsize cost, if your looking for budget , you can go motorola series, i did consider it at first.

[–] dukatos@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

Motorola is full of bloatware. Can not recommend.

The hardware is fine, though.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Daily driving the cmf with /e/OS from Murena for few months now, warmly recommended.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Fairphone just released the Fairphone 6.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (17 children)

The big problem with anything not Google or Samsung is, as it's always been, software support. You get 2 or maybe 3 years of updates and then the device is trash. So you can save a buck on the short term but it will cost you more in the long run and you'll have shitty devices all the way along anyway.

You can buy a 2 year old Pixel for $2-300 and it will last you another 4-5 years (unless Google remotely nukes your battery).

[–] No1@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago

anything not Google or Samsung is, as it’s always been, software support.

Motorola.has 5 years on most of its new phones nowadays

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[–] Prox@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would Moto count? I've been rocking their basic-ass phones for years now. Way, way less bloatware than Samsung, etc. and only like $200 unlocked.

[–] xep@fedia.io 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think Moto is actually Lenovo now?

[–] comador@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yup. Motorola is Chinese Lenovo now sadly. Lenovo is absolute trash devices and support.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Mobility

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[–] MysteriousSophon21@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Besides Nothing Phone, you've got Fairphone (sustainable/repairable), Sony (great cameras), Asus (gaming focused), Nokia (budget-friendly), OnePlus (speed/value), and Xiaomi (if you can import) all working to varying degreees in the US market - tho carrier compatibility can be trickly so always check bands before buying.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Up until about two weeks ago I could use wallet on my rooted pixel with lineage and play integrity fix.

Some recent change on their end and it doesn't work at all anymore. I guess they don't want to know what I'm buying.

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[–] SeeFerns@programming.dev 27 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I really want to try a pinephone or something with Ubuntu touch. It’s likely not daily driver ready but I’m still curious at how far along it is.

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