I'm just going to say it, fuck the USA and der medieval injustice system.
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Every time the state botches an execution, remember that that same state found them guilty.
(The state is too flawed to have the responsibility, in my opinion. A lot of innocent people are sent to prison. I don't think that she is innocent by any means, but the Innocence Project proves that the state is often not very just)
remember in america, the ones who administer lethal injections are as a rule incompetent.
you may think i am being hatefull to executioners, but it’s more complicated then that. if you are medically trained you say an oath to do no harm, doing so anyway will cost you your medical license. so the one who prepares and administers the injection is not medically trained.
also the chemicals are not produced in or by medically licensed pharmaceutical companies. and raw chemicals that are legally allowed to be used are not allowed to be sold to the prisons who do lethal injections. so they have to order from ilreputable sources, who are also incompetent. you may remember the big discussion over some states voting on being allowed to chance what chemicals can be used to kill people.
so it’s not unheard of for people to survive their execution, and why they recover at the hospital after. the executioner is a moraless incompetent who is back yard mixing cut chemicals with an aura of legitimacy as paper thin as his credentials.
Meanwhile we've got entire hardware stores full of sledge hammers.
For those wondering:
A botched execution doesn’t invalidate the underlying conviction, and a death warrant orders a completed execution, not a finite number of tries. She’s still in custody and technically still subject to another attemt.
If I were her attorney I’d push to have her sentence commuted to life without parole, citing that her physical condition makes lethal injection extremely difficult, and that what’s she’s been put through constitutes cruel and unusual punishment.
Speaking personally, in a civilized society, we’d be as horrified at what’s been done to her as we are at what she actually did. Don’t care to argue with anyone about that, that’s just how I see it.
in a civilized society
Not relevant here, this case is happening in the US
We have a story in Hungary from medieval times about a guy who was let off because he had so thick hair, the headsman's axe didn't take over three tries.
Speaking personally, in a civilized society, we’d be as horrified at what’s been done to her as we are at what she actually did.
I am even more horrified about what's been (and being) done to her, because it is coming from an allegedly "sane" group of people, whereas she was clearly a victim of insane abuse herself, not only that but also with actual organ damage from what I read about her case - I think substance abuse of her mother during pregnancy, and being a toddler in a room full of dog poo?
Occasionally, in this sadistic, cruel world, people snap. Sometimes even without having been victims of abuse themselves. Some are born psychopaths (but even then: is there a meaningful interpretation of "evil" in the sense that these people chose to be violent? Or does the problem start when their mind is in a place where effecting violence on others is even an option?).
But for a society to enact corporal punishment, it has to be truly barbaric and utterly depraved. Not to mention the torture leading up to that, with solitary confinement and decades of a literal blade hanging over your head.
Protect society from violent criminals, by all means, lock them up if that's needed. But don't expose them to cruelty. That is never going to make anyone a better person, it only turns those committing the cruelty into psychopaths. Also, regular inmates with lifelong sentences are cheaper to society than those on death row.
None of the cruelty brings her victim back to life. But the cruelty committed against the murderer may cause the next cruel and violent murderer from among the children of the tormentors of death row inmates, some of whom will suffer abuse by their psychopathic parent.
Truly the ones who deserve the death penalty the most are the billionaire Epstein-"Elites".
Every single one of them is directly responsible for more death and harm than any serial killer.
Not to mention the downstream effects of wealth hording, which is of course poverty, and everything that stems from that...particularly, criminal behavior.
Oh and then they use their power and influence to pit us against each other. They literally are "the algorithm", at this point.
No, you see, the reason you're struggling isn't because this guy is rich, it's because of these other people who look different than you and are struggling even more. They're the ones to be mad at!
Ugh.
As much as I agree with the sentiment, I am generally opposed to corporal punishment. Do they deserve a good beating? Sure. Should the state have the power to hurt people (other than in situations of immediate danger to others)? No. Absolutely not.
Don’t care to argue with anyone
Sir, this is the internet
If I were her attorney I’d push to have her sentence commuted to life without parol ...
That's exactly what her attorney is asking for.
Smart guy. He clearly read my comment. 🧐
A botched execution doesn’t invalidate the underlying conviction, and a death warrant orders a completed execution, not a finite number of tries.
So Margaret Atwood lied to me?
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I read this book, Reincarnation Blues, where this society rehabs people by hugging them and reminding them of how to be a good person. Seems better than lethal injection
I would kill so many more people.
... more?
24th Century Social Scientist: Class, what we have here is a perfect example of humanas aggresitoris. People of this time period were so indoctrinated into death and destruction that even a mention of a hug results in a death threat.
Fuck that guy, and you know he's a guy because he doesn't respect consent even in the 24th century.
You definitely made me chuckle, thanks.
"I need a hug today."
"Oh yeah? Prove it."
After reading the news about Christa Pike, I found an article on Wikipedia listing a bunch of botched executions.
Since 2000, 5% of lethal injections have gone wrong in one way or another. That's 17 botched injections in 26 years. That's an unreasonably high failure rate for something that they have no intention of stopping.
I had an assignment once related to the death penalty when i was in high school. I remember reading that lethal injection had the highest botch rate. Don't remember what the least was, but I want to say it was hanging? Either way, it's unreasonable to do anyway. Costs significantly more than life in prison.
There are a lot of hanging entries on the botched executions list, though in fairness, that's because the list goes back several hundred years.
From what I can tell, you've got a 2/3 chance of a quick death by hanging. Rope too long, you're getting decapitated. Rope long enough: quick neck break, goodnight sweetheart.
Rope too short you're spending 20 minutes being strangled to death while people tug on your legs to try and break your neck.
Knowing my luck, I'd get the latter.
How don't they have a backup method? There must be someone around with a gun? Double tap just in case, even if the chemical method seems to work.
If you must execute people, at least have the decency to do it properly.
IMHO the entire injection procedure is to keep it "clean" and socially accepted. Very few people would be happy to see somebody being shot in the head, but seeing somebody "falling asleep" is much more "ok". It looks less violent even though the end result is the same. Surviving a lethal injection and waking up again in that nightmare must be horrible.
The reality is that death penalty is cruel and more costly than keeping someone in prison for life, and this doesn't even consider the human cost of executing an innocent. It just doesn't make sense.
Agreed.
Dying slowly from an injection (or not at all) is more cruel that a bullet to the brain. You are right that these injections are done because observers don't have the stomach for an bullet to the head. But if you don't have the stomach to carry out the sentence, then you shouldn't be meting out that sentence.
Never heard a complaint from the guillotine. That thing can chop all day every day for weeks. The French had a go at maxing it out. Didn't even brake a sweat.
They did, however, find out approximately how long a severed head lives after being removed from the body. It's much longer than you'd think.
"Chop chop!" said the guillotine, hungry for its next billionaire.
She's the 0.1% of germs exposed to lysol
And she's now at the hospital where they are trying to keep her alive. Like can't they decide? Do you want her to die or not?
The hospital staff are obligated to keep her alive. They won't take part in the execution by letting her die.
Most lethal injections aren't administered by doctors because it would violate the Hippocratic oath, and in some places can get their medical license revoked.
So she's going to bounce back and forth between the people trying to kill her and the people trying to keep her alive, because that's how our system is designed and it doesn't offer a better alternative to this situation...
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How do you fuck up an execution? It's really not that hard to kill a person. Just ask her.
I heard in a podcast that she suffers from a blood disease which could affect the lethal injection. She and her lawyers have repeatedly tried to request that the death penalty be carried out by hanging or firing squad instead, but this was rejected by the judges.
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Non medical people making execution drugs because medical professionals took an oath to do no harm
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Straight up medival torture
Worse, arguably. In medieval times they wouldn't (be able to) save them from the brink of death only to execute them when they have recovered.
The murder sounds like a satanic panic story. She was carrying around a piece of skull afterwards. The boy pled and got life +25 while she fought it and originally got the death by chair. Personally, while I’m morally ok with just being done with certain people, the death penalty in the US is too screwed up to keep. This one definitely was a good candidate for it and needs to not get back into society, however that works.
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