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[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

The reality: “Nobody stops to fuel their vehicle taking gasoline, gets out, rushes as fast as possible, puts as much fuel in the car as possible, and gets back in the car and drives away,” Cutler said.

Say what? Outside of a long road trip, that's very much what I do every time. I haven't been into the store at my gas station in years. I'm hardly alone, I see plenty of other people fill up and leave.

The "charging problem" is most completely addressed by doing less driving. Obviously.

[–] jagermo@feddit.org 21 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

We just came back from a trip. Started with below 50 percent, first stop was a nice caffee for a second breakfast. Within 20 minutes, charge went up to 80, giving uns around 400 km range. The car was full before we even finished.

The planing simply changed. Instead of rushing through a gas stop, we prefer a route with places for a nice break. Or, in a pinch, nearly every McDonald's now has a row of quick chargers.

It is becoming a non-issue.

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[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 day ago

In the context of EVs, your daily grind refueling is a scenario that doesn't really exist - and shouldn't exist. Your weekly trip to the gas station should be replaced almost entirely with AC charging, either at home or at work. DC fast charging should only be used when you are driving an extended amount in a single day. And if you've been driving 200 miles that day, you probably need some food and a restroom.

Coincidentally, it solves one of the biggest (and least explainable) gaps on fast charging. If you make your regular rest/food stops the same thing as your charging stops, then you'll spend very little extra time charging on a road trip. It's always been weird to me that fast chargers have traditionally been nowhere near amenities like food and restrooms.

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[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 270 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (41 children)

All the messaging about fast charging speed is focused on the wrong thing. EV drivers should be able to do the vast majority of their charging at home or at their destination. The messaging should be about getting chargers in more homes, apartment complexes and workplaces. Speed doesn't matter as much if you're going to be parked for half the day or overnight. That's something that gas simply can't do.

Fast charging stations should only be necessary for road trips, where you should be taking a break every so often anyways.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 126 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

The fact that so many people don't think about this or are unaware shows how well the propaganda worked.

Here is a car that is by far the easiest car you'll ever own, the power to run it is the cheapest you'll ever see, and 99% of your trips will be within one charge/tank meaning you'll never need to worry about range ever - but the propaganda convinced them all that that's a deal breaker.

As an EV owner the road trips we take are the vast minority of driving anymore. When we do there are options.

  • plan out your route and stops. Requires maybe 15 minutes of planning before your trip. You pick a place with food nearby, get out for 30 minutes, stretch, eat your meal, and you are good until the next meal.
  • if you are one of the 80% of households with 2 cars, take the other car for that roadtrip.
  • get a rental car for your trip. (Remembering that a couple hundred for a rental car is vastly cheaper than paying for gas for 10+ years)
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I can't help but feel if EVs were invented first, convincing people to adopt gas cars would be impossible.

  • "You mean I have to take it somewhere and stand outside every time I need energy?"
  • "Why do I have to put all these fluids in it? And why does it need all these filters, brake pads, and maintenance?"
  • "These things are so slow, why would you ever want to drive one?"
  • "What do you mean I can't turn on the climate control anytime I want? You mean I have to wait for this thing to heat up?!"
[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 9 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

"those fluid is VERY flammable, it's insane people wanted to sit above one"

"it stink when it's running."

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 16 hours ago

"leave it running in a closed garage and it will kill you in minutes with poison gas"

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[–] ChaoticGoodHeart@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The saddest part is that EVs were invented first, but it was easier to tanker fuel everywhere, rather than building out the electric grid in low-density areas.

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[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 day ago

First, just to be pedantic, EVs did exist first. They go all the way back to the early 1800s. But battery technology didn't advance enough to make them a good option until recently, so your point remains.

I fully agree with you that the only thing keeping gasoline going is inertia. There have been parodies applying the same logic to other fields, like the gas-powered phone.

There's a reason why 80%+ of EV owners say they'll never go back, and a good chunk of the remainder are just waiting on the field to mature a bit.

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[–] BurtReynolds@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

My EV's getting older now, but it'll still do 400+km if I charge it fully overnight. If we're doing a road trip it's time for a burger and to stretch ones legs when it's getting low anyways. Eat my food, get some rest and 20-30 minutes later I'm ready to go again.

I was sceptical before buying it, but I will never buy a gas car again. And I work in oil and gas

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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 34 points 1 day ago (8 children)

owning a BYD EV here in Australia, 80% of my charging is at home, just plug in to a wall socket powered by mostly solar from my roof. 15% is destination charging eg when buying groceries, plug in, shop, unplug and go and only 5% is charging on a road trip.

[–] luftruessel@feddit.org 17 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I love how people looking into getting a car will go crazy over range. All the while they have not driven more than 100k in a single day in the last 5 years.

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago
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