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From North America, and I’m going on vacation in china for a few weeks. I wonder if anyone knows if I’ll be able to access any of my self-hosted services over zerotier while I’m abroad?

Edit: To be specific, I’m hoping to ssh into my machine over zerotier in case I need to fix something and back up some photos to my home NAS via rsync or something

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[–] TehNomad@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

As another user posted, how strict the firewall is depends on where you are (and if there are any special events). I heard that Wireguard doesn't work because of deep packet inspeciton, but I was able to use Tailscale to my home network without problems when I was there last year. I also set up a xray vless-reality proxy on a VPS and Outline servers on Google cloud and those worked too.

But the easiest method is to buy an HK eSIM for roaming (I used 3HK). I bought a month of LetsVPN but they booted me from the service for some random reason, so I changed to Mullvad which also worked too.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If you will be using roaming for mobile data in China, you won't face any blocking.

Accessing over cloudflare tunnels or just a normal exposed server works.

VPNs work most of the time. But you can be cut off after like 30 minutes to an hour. I'd recommend only turning it on when you need it.

I've been to China very recently.

You will most likely face speed issues, although this may be due to the physical infrastructure itself connecting China to the outside internet isn't really that stellar. As everything Chinese citizens typically use is hosted in China.

[–] yaroto98@lemmy.org 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

From what I've read if you use a VPN it's pretty simple to get past the great firewall of china. It's also only technically illegal, and not really punished.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Well, no, if you open a wireguard connection it well just get dropped in a minute. You need to do a lot more work than that

[–] alteredEnvoy@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Doesnt it also depend on the type of VPN and the providers?

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

People posting here don't realize that CN gov IDs and allows certain traffic to get rerouted through a certain VLAN so they can do DPI and record every packet through a beefy expensive tap device to analyze the telemetry later, and potentially build a case against you. If they so choose. And they likely have the capability to trivially decrypt TLS.

Don't bring in any tech, don't access your personal net back home, don't expect any level of actual privacy or good intentions. Just do your business and keep your digital digital persona minimal while there.

[–] BuoyantCitrus@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

they likely have the capability to trivially decrypt TLS

Whoa. Anywhere to read more about this? Had not been paying close attention, didn't realise that was so starkly the case.

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[–] ag10n@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What you’re asking is illegal where you’re going

Best of luck to you

[–] abies_exarchia@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is it illegal to backup my photos to the NAS in my house? I’m not even attempting to access banned services

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[–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You realize not only Google is blocked, but also Brave search, duckduckgo, everything but Russian and Chinese search engines? You can't find anything on them except scams and SEO spam

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, I do know and realize that. Why it’s probably not a good idea to try connecting to your homelab lol

[–] iopq@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

Just connect, they don't block random IPs for no reason. You need to transfer a lot of traffic to trigger something

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 1 week ago

I found deepseek was good for using as a search engine. Lol.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 1 week ago

Not really. It's a grey area. They don't care about foreigners using vpns at all. It's kind of expected. Foreign SIMs don't even face blocks on mobile networks. If you're going to a sensitive province of China, I think they'll care slightly more, but as long as you're not using the VPN to do something illegal, you'll be okay.

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