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[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 126 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

~~Rather than~~ In addition to this, they should leak all the websites that MPs are visiting.

If it's anything like the United States, we're sure to find some embarrassing search histories (at the very least).

No privacy for me. No privacy for you.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Well he did it love in the commons not surprised he's going

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'd love to hear some informed commentary on the legality of this, if it's legal, it's surely an oversight in the law.

Edit : just to be clear, I'm talking about creating the ID, rather than using it.

[–] zonnewin@feddit.nl 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Of course it's not legal. This is called identity theft.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Using the ID, sure. But what about providing the service?

[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Depends.

You can argue that it's basically art/political speech. You've done it to draw attention to flaws in the approach and to highlight how ineffectual the current system is, and that if you actually wanted to do make fake IDs you'd take a much less high-profile approach. As such, there's no actual criminal intent required.

Don't know if a judge would buy it though.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago

Civil disobedience is done with full knowledge you are breaking the law.

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Especially a UK one.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I think the creator of this is playing with fire personally.

[–] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

I think it would fall under forgery which is definitely illegal and doesn't require you to use the ID.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Given that many online services currently asking for ID have a proven track record of massive data leaks I'd argue that demanding people upload photos of their ID is complicity in identity theft too.

[–] zonnewin@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago

That would be a bit harder to make stick, but I would agree.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

On the criminal side, It’s identity fraud, and also an offence under the Misuse of Computers Act, gaining access to a system unauthorisedly. Civilly, it’s almost certainly a violation of the ToS.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

“My OpenAI credits got hugged to death, please use a known postcode (like one from Keir Starmer's constituency, WC2B6NH) in the meantime,” the author asks.

While the OSA is dumb, this is also bad design, and why applications are going to use so much power.

Cache the image creation results. Use a random address generator. This would drop the LLM use to the bare minimum.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That’s…exactly what they are doing and telling you to use a known post code so you hit the cache…

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

They're using ChatGPT for fake address generation if it even needs a cache for that part. There are plenty of libraries to do that locally. They should only need to cache generated images, which is the only thing a model would be useful for here.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah this is not worth the risk. Identity fraud of a politicians can be a serious crime. The pay off for this is a minor inconvenience for some desk worker and a few slop articles written about you.

[–] Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It can be used by AI age verification tools on a bunch of websites. So yes I guess that is fraud. But these tools claim not to store the data in the verification process. If somebody could prove a made up ID was used then I suspect they're in bigger shit for a GDPR leak.

[–] aurelar@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

It's a case of mutually assured destruction: to charge someone with impersonation, they would have to admit that they saved data that was supposed to be only for age verification and then deleted.