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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because how to use it is baked into what it is. Like many big tech products, it’s not just a tool but also a philosophy. To use it is also to see the world through its (digital) eyes.

[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Getting banned from Facebook. After a decade of clapping back against racists. Has been the best thing in my life. So glad to be out of there. Just wish I could have saved my pics first.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago

Let's just pretend nothing after MySpace ever happened

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not surprised. I am surprised that the researchers were surprised, though.

Bridging algorithms seem promising.

The results were far from encouraging. Only some interventions showed modest improvements. None were able to fully disrupt the fundamental mechanisms producing the dysfunctional effects. In fact, some interventions actually made the problems worse. For example, chronological ordering had the strongest effect on reducing attention inequality, but there was a tradeoff: It also intensified the amplification of extreme content. Bridging algorithms significantly weakened the link between partisanship and engagement and modestly improved viewpoint diversity, but it also increased attention inequality. Boosting viewpoint diversity had no significant impact at all.

[–] rimu@crust.piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Veerry interesting, yes...

[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

The dream was that social media would help revitalize the public sphere and support the kind of constructive political dialogue that your paper deems "vital to democratic life." That largely hasn't happened.

Their idea is basically that people need to be told the same things to what to believe in so that democracy can work as it's supposed to and social media is disrupting that with all the conspiracy shit, flame wars and polarization of opinions. The issue is that this common idea is fermented by the boomer generation. They grew up in really quite anomalous post war world when there was first time in human history basically monolithic mass media that people watched it AND had high trust in AND the system provided more for the masses more than it does now. Those then lead to to high societal inclusion and high social cohesion that again fed into the prosperity. Now we have fragmented information sphere and things are shit are shit, political center is hated by most and radicalism is once again rising.

However so called democracy or collective decision making in general itself does not rely on people not believing in crazy shit, not being fed the best possible validated information, or god forbid having unorthodox ideas of their own or developing factionalism or totally different reading on reality. It helps make it smoother and avoids violence, but that "smoothness of process" that boomers have come to expect is also why society in wider terms is politically stagnant and rotting. People seem to live in different realities, because in a sense we are, because our economic realities can be so different and decoupled form the mainstream narrative. It never didn't have to get this bad, but social media only a venting mechanism not the reason for the growing divides. The division in society and the general anguish is real IRL, it just takes forms of all kinds of irrational and counterproductive forms online. The problem isn't really that people are factional and can't agree with each other, it's that nobody can no longer agree with the monolithic unpopular political center that is holding on to power for dear life.

Good thing is, you don't need to use it. Bad thing is, it affects reality.

As long as people worship themselves (but also, paradoxically, require everyone's attention and approval all the time just to make it to the next day), it will continue being that way. For those who see it for what it is and are disgusted by it, we have Lemmy/discussion boards.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Can't?

I'm on Lemmy, am I not?

It CAN be fixed, the question if the will is there. We need to inform and teach more people

[–] sibachian@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

the problem is algorithms. during the whole bluesky promo all over lemmy while everyone was shitting on mastodon. the only thing that's broken is algorithms, and once you throw them out social media is immediately fixed - but of course the primary argument of mastodon vs bluesky was that mastodon requires you to curate your content (like joining a sub on reddit to see it on your front page stream, before algorithms fucked that site, and the thing is people LOVED old reddit so i fail to see how this is bad and doesn't work, but hey, all of lemmy said so, so who am i to blame) whereas bluesky being a relaunch of twitter and literally curating content for you no matter if you actually want to see it or not but for most people reactionary content is the only content they happily interact with anyway so algorithms makes a lot of sense for them because they feel they are engaging more with the site despite the pointless empty engagement they are doing instead of interacting with real users and real content on pages where you have to actively curate your content instead of being fed the lowest hanging fruit.

/ rant off

[–] ksh@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago

Right. We fix ourselves first, we are already here and we do not attempt to control others. We make and go our own way every moment.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Most people don't know about this experience, probably aren't looking for this experience, or would not know how to interact with it. I know it sounds crazy, but Reddit still confuses many people. Lemmy's a different ball of similar wax.

They want the saccharine-coated dopamine-filled mass-produced low-effort meme cesspool that IG, TikTok, etc. all provide. They don't know they want more until they decide they're done with it and start to look. Until then, it's like showing hieroglyphs to an iguana.

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[–] HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Sounds like it's time to delete it, then.

[–] troed@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

Using Bluesky as the non-algorithmic example is problematic - they still need to show high user engagement numbers for their VC owners. Mastodon do not have the same problems since on the contrary a Mastodon instance owner has an economic incentive in making sure spambots and troll factory accounts get closed down asap.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

social media is what it's made to be. social media as we use it is flawed.

all of the platforms just do different colors of the same damn thing.

[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Social media will be fixed by - wait for it...

Now.

Done. Fixed it, you may thank me later.

Yours,

B-TR3E - the man who fixed social media

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hi it's still broken on my machine. I've tried turning it off and on again

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Hi it's still broken on my machine.

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