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The tech used here is the popular Flipper Zero, an ethical hacker’s swiss army knife, capable of all sorts of things such as WiFi attacks or emulating NFC tags. Now, 404 Media has found an underground trade where much shadier hackers sell extra software and patches for the Flipper Zero to unlock all manner of cars, including models popular in the U.S. The hackers say the tool can be used against Ford, Audi, Volkswagen, Subaru, Hyundai, Kia, and several other brands, including sometimes dozens of specific vehicle models, with no easy fix from car manufacturers.

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[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

To be clear, the flipper is just a Girl Tech IM-me with an NFC chip. If it lets people do a thing, that thing has been possible for decades. Just wait until someone makes a popular device based on a cheap fully featured wideband SDR like the AD9363 or LMS7002. Shit is gonna get fucking wild.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

It’s like how people think the Raspberry Pi is the only single board computer.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago

Lol yeah a very cheap rtlsdr with a chip for transmission can do the same as a flipper. Flipper just makes it easy.

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[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 week ago

Cue governments banning working with electronics to stop auto theft and also save the children

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why is 404media boosting anti-basic electronics fearmongering ?

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[–] Ballissle@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Really? I see these fairly often on local fb marketplace. I was tempted out of curiosity to get one but I dont have a use outside of mucking about.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

outside of mucking about.

The best use case of all.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They don't really have many legitimate, practical uses for most people. They're ideal for pentesters.

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

Prentending to be hackerman is a legit usecase IMHO. They do seem like fun, but I personally can't justify the cost.

I would definitely play with one if I had one

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Weren't Kia Boys stealing cars with literally just a USB cable since it physically fit to turn the ignition behind the key cylinder?
That doesn't require buying a special device, it was mostly crimes of convenience. I doubt the Flipper Zero will ever get that widespread.

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

You'd be surprised what people will pay for a striker hellcat. Yea it's never gonna be as common, but it will happen. It is easier to steal a hellcat with a flipper zero than to pull apart a column to get behind the ignition and turn it without the key, if anything hacking into cars is quicker and easier than defeating a physical key! My SO push button 15 Jetta could easily be stolen with a flipper, but my 87 YJ with a physical key requires an understanding of the wiring system and the time to tear down the column to be stolen. Any dunce capable of buying a flipper loaded with appropriate software can easily steal any new push button car.

[–] pepperprepper@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Thought cars were bad, not sure many people have an understanding of how our emergency broadcasts and alerts work. US needs some huge infrastructure updates.

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I kinda want to see if this would work on my car since the proximity detection of the keyfob only works about half the time anyway.

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