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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 36 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Did some research and here are your options:

  • use custom mod (the new restriction only applies to certified devices). You can use microG (/e/, iode, Lineage) or sandboxing (GrapheneOS) to run apps requiring Google services. Google will still try to kill it but my bet is it will still work for at least a couple of years
  • Ubuntu Touch - you can buy new devices with it, it can run android apps using waydroid but you will not be able to run any apps requiring google services. It can run native Linux apps. Native UT apps are build using QML. It has a completely new system API so it's closer to Android then native Linux. It's based on Halium which uses the kernel from Android
  • PostmarketOS - native Linux running native Linux apps. Can use waydroid. Few supported devices but everything works on PinePhone Pro and few others phones.
  • Droidian or similiar - Debian running on Halium. Kind of half way between PostmarketOS and Ubunut Touch. Native Linux but running on Android based kernel

Personally, I will stick with GrapheneOS for now (my Pixel still has at least 6 years of support). When I'm unable to run all the apps I need on it I will switch to two phones setup: stock Android for work/car apps, some Linux phone for everything else. When my Pixel dies I will switch to iPhone.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Google has already started killing GrapheneOS by removing device trees from AOSP releases. Android 16 works fine, but for how long?

I would imagine the first thing any custom ROM would do is bypass Google's app restrictions.

I wouldn't be surprised if in 3 years I would need to pass hardware attestation to install a calculator app from the Play store.

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[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 65 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm probably going to spam this around a bit, since most people don't seem to know about it, but a reminder that FuriLabs has a (GNU+)Linux phone with decent spec.s and the ability to run Android app.s (from what I've heard) pretty decently: https://furilabs.com/

Biggest drawback is it's based on Halium. Usual growing pains of a new product/company apply but apparently the company is pretty responsive and their dev.s have worked with customers to get things like calling working with the carrier and bands of their country where it hasn't worked before so improvements move pretty quickly.

Collection of different experiences I've variously seen online over the last year or so:

I don't own one, myself, so I can't give any personal experience but I've seen it around for a few years now but most people don't seem to even know about it. Maybe there's a reason for that? But none I've ever seen anyone say.

[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Looks good but it's too bulky.

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[–] GorGor@startrek.website 29 points 2 days ago

HOLY SHIT IS THAT A HEADPHONE JACK?!

Seriously this ticks boxes Ive given up on. I never thought Id see a phone with all three: waterproof, removable battery, headphone jack. It even has wireless charging which isnt really one of my boxes but is a little extra if you use it.

[–] RacerX@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I kinda miss my BlackBerry.

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[–] woland@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Great. This could be just the boost that free android needs. Graphene and eos can brace for a few new customers i guess

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[–] sk1nnym1ke@piefed.social 87 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I don't like how tech is evolving...

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 73 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 66 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Oof, time to bite the bullet and switch email providers. Shit like this is why I've spent the last couple years de-googling my life.

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[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 71 points 2 days ago (9 children)

The moment I don't get to run my own stuff and F-Droid, I'll be switching off smartphones.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 53 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'll use the ugliest command line only smartphone over fully walled garden android

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 64 points 2 days ago (3 children)

so basically i have to send in my id to google just to sideload a test apk i made in flutter to my own phone to test it out?

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