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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Just use Linux?

I don't understand the question...

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[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago (15 children)

Android is opensource. ROM developers like lineageos should be able to create nornal ROMs with sideload enabled

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

...And have them able to run on zero consumer devices if the bootloaders are locked, and the manufacturers refuse to sign their ROMs for them. (Hint: they will refuse to sign their ROMs for them.)

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They'd have to completely kill the ability to build your own machine (the whole "IBM compatability" thing) and I don't see that happening when almost every business and factory uses their own custom shit for specific niche reasons.

[–] toddestan@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not really. The pieces are already in place with UEFI and Secure Boot. All that would need to happen would be to force Secure Boot to be enabled, and only preload keys for an approved list of operating systems. With that, your fancy new motherboard may not be able to boot and run the OS of your choice.

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[–] I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And Android phones will get a workaround to fuck over Google, the genie is out of the bottle. This shit will never happen to "all PCs"

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[–] xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'm not an expert. But microsoft controls secure boot signing, right?

Microsoft is also involved in setting standards and influences manufacturers. I feel like the future where secure boot is the only option and were Microsoft holds the keys is likely.

Politicians and decision makers are not gonna save us. They like it when companies say it's for security and they can slap on "it's for the children".

[–] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Nah, PCs are easier to install anything we want. Corps trying to lock out Linux would be like shooting themselves in the foot.

Phones are what they would like to get a tighter leash on, because it has become a device that nearly everyone buys more than PCs due to them being more usable and cheaper, and thus a bigger revenue channel.

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 5 days ago (15 children)

You're describing Secure Boot. It happened years ago.

And, btw, the Android thing also doesn't affect anyone without gapps. Chill out.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

When I was tasked with buying laptops for a company, I made sure to test Linux compatibility on every machine. If the model didn't support Linux, we didn't buy it.

Most of the devs were windows users, but there were enough devs and sysadmins that preferred Linux that it just made more sense to only buy hardware that supports both windows and Linux. I'm sure a lot of tech companies have a similar policy (it's one reason think pads are so ubiquitous)

Corporate pressure would never allow such lockdown in the market

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[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 5 days ago

nah. 28 likely. I mean later.

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Eh, just means it isn't plug and play. Once you have the hardware, you are the admin.

It may get tougher, but it'll never be impossible.

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