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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 57 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Microsoft was successful in convincing me to upgrade to Mint however.

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[–] RawDog@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I mean, who wants to buy a brand-new computer to be able to run Windows 11 anyway? Besides,most folks aren't tech-savvy or care enough to go through the hoops just to install this dumpster fire of an OS.

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 63 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Looking at it from a perspective other than "Windows shit, use Linux", MS' biggest issue here is that the vast majority have no compelling reason to upgrade. Currently.

To the average punter, W11 offers nothing that W10 doesn't already have. There's no new technologies that they care about, no new tentpole software that they're dying to try. Nothing. It has copilot running rampant through it, but most people don't know what that is or don't give a shit.

Give Apple their due, when they announce an OS update, they focus hard on the ways it improves over the current offering. Ways it can interact with your other devices, for example. Or even just a whole new design.

But MS advertise nothing beyond "This is new, come get it!", then wonder why no one cares.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

The biggest problem Microsoft has is that the biggest selling feature of Windows is its ability to be backwards compatible and run on older hardware. The fact that a good number of PCs that aren’t even 10 years old can’t even run it is the issue. Also, MacOS names for each update are unique and interesting. Windows 11 is a very uncreative name which has always been a problem with Microsoft; example: Xbox One…

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[–] T156@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Even if I had wanted to upgrade, I wouldn't be able to, since Microsoft needs hardware mg computer doesn't have. I can't imagine most people would care enough to even think about that. They'd just keep using the computer until it no longer worked, and in the modern day, that will take a lot longer than it would have a decade or two ago.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 70 points 3 days ago (4 children)
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[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 45 points 3 days ago

Help! Our unsustainable behavior of screwing over customers in the name of quarterly profits has finally caught up to us! Turns out there are long term consequences of our behavior, and now Linux can truly go toe-to-toe with Windows on a home desktop!

[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 3 days ago (10 children)

How much of this is people not wanting to upgrade vs not being able to upgrade because their PC isn't supported?

[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago

I'm a sys admin in the public sector and the hardware requirements of W11 are a great blessing. I couldn't have convinced thousands of workers to switch to Linux and get used to another GUI but this forces it on us because there simply is no money to replace all that hardware. Rolling out Mint clients and between this and mobile operating systems Microsoft is finally losing its monopoly on the OS market.

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[–] FarrellPerks@feddit.uk 13 points 2 days ago

Microsoft 'Convinced' me to move to Linux, best move I've ever done.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago

I upgraded from Windows 11 to EndeavourOS. No regrets, it’s a huge improvement.

[–] Gearheart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I have win 11. I only use it as a steam game machine and sometimes vr games.

If I'm ever required to reformat I'll probably try IoT Enterprise LTSC. Unsure how video game friendly the version is though.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

IoT Enterprise works just fine. That said, I still don't trust Microsoft - it still insists on forced updates and reboots, and likely AI, down the line.

I am figuring on switching to SteamOS Desktop, once that is released.

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[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Mandatory secure boot is the thing. Before I get a new motherboard and CPU I’ll just get Linux. Gaming works great there, and those 3 things I actually need Microsoft for can be used in a VM

[–] wshrader@lemmy.today 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Had to use Rufus to even install it on a ThinkPad which works perfectly. Drivers and all.

Maybe they should stop trying to be like Apple. You can’t limit upgrades then complain about no one upgrading.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They're not limiting it because they're worried about performance or drivers.

They're limiting it because they want to force people into SecureBoot, TPM, and CPUs with several remote control management firmware, because this way they're one stop closer to a fully closed down chain from boot to OS which allows for aggressive DRM and no escape from their ecosystem. Just like at how iOS works and the path Android has been going for the last five years.

The fact the PC ecosystem is open is a left over from the origins in the era before capitalism realized that trapping people into their digital landscapes was profitable, and they have been trying everything to make this go away. Microsoft's wet dream is your PC becoming the same as your smart TV: a data harvesting, ad filled generic piece of hardware that can only display what they want you to see.

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