this post was submitted on 17 Sep 2025
166 points (99.4% liked)

Selfhosted

51863 readers
624 users here now

A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don't control.

Rules:

  1. Be civil: we're here to support and learn from one another. Insults won't be tolerated. Flame wars are frowned upon.

  2. No spam posting.

  3. Posts have to be centered around self-hosting. There are other communities for discussing hardware or home computing. If it's not obvious why your post topic revolves around selfhosting, please include details to make it clear.

  4. Don't duplicate the full text of your blog or github here. Just post the link for folks to click.

  5. Submission headline should match the article title (don’t cherry-pick information from the title to fit your agenda).

  6. No trolling.

Resources:

Any issues on the community? Report it using the report flag.

Questions? DM the mods!

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Hey, so I recently had the idea of proposing some new ideas, I had for the IT infrastructure of my local scouts organisation, mainly it's own nextcloud instance and website (and if that works well, maybey a matrix server and wiki, but website and nextcloud are much higher priority right now). But, I am wondering, what the best way to do the hosting would be. Using a VPS would be pretty nice, because there would be no upfront cost, but we would have to pay monthly fee and that's pretty hard to pitch for a new and untested idea, especially because we don't have that much regular funds/income. The other option would be to self host on hardware that stays in the building, but I am not quite shure, but then we would have a pretty steep upfront cost and I am not 100 percent shure, if we even have a proper network in the building.

The main thing, I am trying to ask here is, if any of you have ever done something similar before and if so, how you did it. Also I am thankful for any advice in general. I have done this already for my family, but doing this for an entire organistation is an entirely different thing. Thank you very much in advance!

(page 2) 22 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] meh@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

i'd say start small. do the the webpage on some old hardware, maybe a wiki. content consumption things that would be uncomplicated for the group to adopt. avoid things that would mean managing accounts for other people early on. a wiki or some static page using something like modocs will be easy to run off a decent internet connection at the building. low bandwith usage and low traffic.

if your goal is to degoogle group, nextcloud could be helpful for the organisers. maybe if you have success on the simple sites you can get people on board with some hardware for a small nextcloud server. but dont plan on opening the next cloud up to the kids. thats a world of risk you don't need to open up.

[–] Nexyte@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As someone who has no real experience with Nextcloud: Do I 'need' it, when I already have a NAS with Synology Drive running on it, being accessible through Tailscale?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] koala@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

How much storage you want? Do you want any specific feature beyond file sharing?

How much experience do you have self hosting stuff? What is the purpose of this project? (E.g. maybe you want a learning experience, not using commercial services, just need file sharing?)

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

VPS is not that much, especially if you aren't storing a ton of media. Digital Ocean and Hetzner are good places to look. This will also prevent some networking headaches you're likely to have hosting it "on prem".

If part of your reason for doing this is to involve the kids in the process, then it's better to do it locally. Someone in the org has or can find an unused desktop computer that you guys can have fun with for pretty much zero cost. You will probably have trouble trying to connect to it from outside your network though.

[–] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago

Would you believe Oracle OCI? They have an always free tier, as in you never pay. You need a valid regular credit card. At first I thought it was for a slow x86 instance, but it includes Arm hours equivalent to 4 cores, 24 GB RAM, 10TB of transfer a month, I think 200GB storage. Divide it up for an nginx reverse proxy in front of it, or HA Proxy if you are feeling ambitious.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Just a word of warning

Nextcloud is very finicky and can be prone to breakage. That's not the say don't use it but be realistic about the amount of work needed to maintain it.

Honestly I would just go for gsuite or office365 simply because they are less likely to break on you. It sucks that Nextcloud is a huge monolith but it is what we have.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I personally would advise against gsuite and office356 as well as it's currently debated whether they can be used in accordance to the GDPR. That's not stopping institutions and organizations... Both are very popular products, but I'd be cautious and not put any sensitive stuff or personal stuff or pictures there. And not hand out logins to other people, especially not minors.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That is only an issue in Europe. OP sounds like they are from the US

I also don't think GDPR is much of a concern as there are large companies using Google and Microsoft services who seem to be fine with the risk. (I'm pretty sure Google and Microsoft also host European stuff in Europe)

[–] FreedomAdvocate 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There’s no “debate” about Office or G-suite and GDPR, what are you talking about?

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well, for once you need a commissioned data processing contract with Microsoft to let Microsoft (a third party) process your users private data. And probably a case-by-case study as Office365/Teams/... consists of a wide variety of different services and products and has lots of configurable options as well. And then we had the Datenschutzkonferenz come to the conclusion Office365 is not allowed in 2022. And it got messy after that. A big debate. The EU and several German states and different institutions doing reviews over the years and coming to different (sometimes opposing) conclusions. And the law concerning data safe harbour / EU data boundary got updated. And we have 2025 now and the situation in the US changes daily. On the upside I believe they've all renewed the Data Privacy Framework certifications so it's legally possible to use the services. But I don't think the debate is solved or over yet. And you'll get some 50+ pages PDF instructions on how to configure your company/organization's cloud office to be in line.

I suppose it's similar for Google? But I see less professional use of their cloud services, I believe it's more popular with smaller organizations and individuals. Honestly I don't know much about that one, I've never considered Google for data that need protection, as that company is one of the largest data leeches on earth.

In any case OP needs to qualify for their NGO programs, as both Google and Microsoft cost about $1,000 a year for like 15 people and that's well above their weight. And GDPR compliance for group members and commissioned data processing is a business feature, that's not in your average private (free) Google account.

Other than that, you can google "office365 gdpr" (or dsgvo) if you haven't heard of it yet and see all the different opinions out there.

[–] FreedomAdvocate -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So……no, there’s no debate about what you said there is debate around - GDPR.

Your cost estimates are incredibly wrong btw. Microsoft offer Microsoft 356 Business Basic for non-profits up to 300 users for free, including 1TB of OneDrive storage.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't think you read what I wrote. The debate is if and how cloud office solutions can be used according to law. Obviously that's about the GDPR because that's how the law concerned with it is called...

And the second thing: That's what I wrote?! I could improve a bit on the grammar...

load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›