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Eyes Up's purpose is to "preserve evidence until it can be used in court." But it has been swept up in Apple's attack on ICE-spotting apps.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 38 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Corpos are not your friends. In fact they are usually the enemy.

[–] festus@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago

Better though than Framework who donate to bad open source developers. Hail big corporate! /s

(This isn't directed at you, I'm more frustrated by the people in the Framework controvery threads who somehow thing buying Apple or Dell is a more ethical choice).

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 26 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Because corporations suck up to fashists if they are in power. That's all.

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[–] vogo13@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 day ago

I'm glad the google play store never censors apps, oh wait. It's almost as if big corporations and now governments have no citizens best interests in mind, mind blowing.

“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” - Benito Mussolini

Dissolution of the Order of the Star

[–] CannedYeet@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (5 children)

My camera can record videos of ICE abuse. Are they gonna ban that?

[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I can't think of a reason why, with client side scanning, they couldn't in the near future implement a filter similar to this. Pictures and videos deemed "problematic" could magically disappear. And of course, your iPhone will send a helpful report to the local Gestapo branch. Eventually, "Sorry, network permission is required to run the camera app. You may not capture images of law enforcement activities per executive law. The camera will now be disabled until you comply."

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

The thing is - the Internet itself is a fascist technology. Fascists, and especially German Nazis, used electric terms and analogies to refer to their politics. Mostly referring to unification of various parts into one network, except in their case the information medium really used was radio.

But the basic idea was that any kind of fascism thrives as means of mass politics. Anything unique, specific, individual is in conflict with that. But the Internet is the tool to slowly grind through that conflict, because it gradually reinforces one voice, one way and one meaning.

It's a very intelligent trap and one hard to believe in, but our world today is so much more fascist than even in dictatorships 30 years ago, that I think I'm right.

Also consider that the very shock of something so modern and new and comfortable being used as a channel of control is, too, what Nazis did.

And when you want to argue that in the Internet one can post their own opinions and create their own spaces and do their own things, think again. These abilities are inherent to reality as well. Make a thought experiment - could you whisper with your friends at a Nazi meeting in the back rows? Could you not even attend? Could you have private conversations on everything you'd want elsewhere? Yes, these all are true. But the only voices to be heard by everyone and reinforced by that system and order were those from the tribune, and millions of voices would answer them in one and the same way, and millions of hands would raise in salute.

And LLMs and such new tools are going to make this worse, because they are tools of situational speech accord with what you expect, leveled by the common average, just like fascism is an ideology of situational emotional accord with what you feel, leveled by the common average. Fascism is the extreme ideology rejecting logic and semantics, and the Internet on every level has been built to reject logic and semantics as a medium of communication of living people. And LLMs are an even more direct tool to do well only that, all the rest is attempts to sell it, but this is its main trait.

And let's recall again how that stopped - by spending all its resources and being defeated in a war.

A truly visionary and futuristic regime, honestly. It's funny how Nazis were so futuristic despite being blood and soil barbarians, and Stalin's regime was really reactionary despite dreaming of space travel, except Stalin's regime's official philosophy was dialectic materialism which is the only thing convenient to describe this contradiction.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Stalin’s regime was really reactionary

Even this is a charitable description. The best term for Stalin's regime is "despotism".

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[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

This.... Is a very possible future

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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I banned Apple from my life a long time ago.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 17 hours ago

Never owned one of their products, not even once. When I realized the iPod didn't support USB file transfer and they forced you to use iTunes, I knew that they were a bad company and I vowed to never use their products.

[–] bike_and_cargo@feddit.org 9 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Other big companies like Google are not better

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 7 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Working on it …

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 190 points 1 day ago (41 children)

Send Apple feedback. They need to hear how unpopular working with Trump will make them.

https://www.apple.com/feedback/

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 145 points 1 day ago (7 children)

OR stop buying ANY of their products

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 109 points 1 day ago (29 children)

Well, both, really.

Make sure they know you won’t be buying their process anymore because of these policies.

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[–] danhab99@programming.dev 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why are these apps being distributed on app stores

Why are these apps not PWAs with an app store deployment wrapper???

[–] pumpupthejam@piefed.social 3 points 14 hours ago

The same reason they don't sell people a live chicken in the grocery store. The general public wouldn't know what to do with it.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Every Lemming be like "what app do you use" meanwhile I'm like "...app? 👀"

-Sent via WebUI

(I don't keep stuff logged-in on my phone, incase a cop grabs it)

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[–] PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (9 children)

People need to realize. There is no fair access to technology. You either bend the knee or have to create your own marketplace.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Its why I have linux PC / laptops, and GrapheneOS on my phone (may get a fairphone next time)

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Me too, but the lords of Technofeudalism, backed by government, won't allow that forever. Maybe on PCs, but not phones. No "side loading" what they don't approve. Banks and co, only allowing their apps on approved OSs. No satnav traffic data unless you use an approved satnav, rendering them useless.

The problem isn't technological, it's political. We need decent government protecting citizens and enforcing competition laws. The problem is the population don't understand what is being done to them, so don't vote against it.

None of it is new. Liberty vs security, monopoly, etc, aren't new, but wrapping it in technology blinds most people to it.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Agreed on decent government...that is tech savvy. Ay leasy Fairphone is independent and you can swap the default android to Ubuntu touch OS

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 87 points 1 day ago (4 children)

why is luigi so popular and adored they ask

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[–] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 77 points 1 day ago (9 children)

So if we ever take back this country, we've gotta destroy Palantir, Apple, Google, Meta, Disney, Microsoft, Amazon, CVS (working to compile a medical database on all USAmericans)... and every company that backed Trump's Nazi campaign. Start making a list now. The corporations alone will be a life's worth of work.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Nationalize all of them, democratic the new platform so the government can't control it. We get one environment that's compatible with everything AND can't be weaponized by tyrants

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Excuse me? Comcast belongs on that list.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Basically every company over a certain size. They all got that big by unfair conduct or outright abuse, because your market laws are way too lax and regulators look away.

You have created menaces that the rest of the world (and the environment) has to deal with.

[–] trajekolus@piefed.social 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Add Tesla, Starlink & Oracle

[–] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 20 hours ago

oh, yeah, of course Musk's companies go on there.. and I saw a few things about Oracle's surveillance efforts.

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