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[–] henfredemars@lemdro.id 254 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Enforcing that ban is going to be difficult.

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 160 points 2 months ago (4 children)

They’re gonna use AI to detect the use of AI.

[–] henfredemars@lemdro.id 95 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Not if I use AI to hide my use of AI first!

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 39 points 2 months ago (4 children)

They are going to implement an AI detector detector detector.

[–] henfredemars@lemdro.id 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s detectors all the way down.

But of course, as a tortoise, you would know that.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Did I seduce you a lot with my hard, polished shell? You can speak freely, nobody will ever know!

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, it was your intense, Gowron-like stare that truly drilled into my heart.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 11 points 2 months ago

Glory to seduction! Glory to the empire!

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[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 12 points 2 months ago

Fun fact, this loop is kinda how one of the generative ML algorithms works. This algorithm is called Generative Adversarial Networks or GAN.

You have a so-called Generator neural network G that generates something (usually images) from random noise and a Discriminator neural network D that can take images (or whatever you're generating) as input and outputs whether this is real or fake (not actually in a binary way, but as a continuous value). D is trained on images from G, which should be classified as fake, and real images from a dataset that should be classified as real. G is trained to generate images from random noise vectors that fool D into thinking they're real. D is, like most neural networks, essentially just a mathematical function so you can just compute how to adjust the generated image to make it appear more real using derivatives.

In the perfect case these 2 networks battle until they reach peak performance. In practice you usually need to do some extra shit to prevent the whole situation from crashing and burning. What often happens, for instance, is that D becomes so good that it doesn't provide any useful feedback anymore. It sees the generated images as 100% fake, meaning there's no longer an obvious way to alter the generated image to make it seem more real.

Sorry for the infodump :3

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well the AI-based AI detector isn't actively making creative people's work disappear into a sea of gen-AI "art" at least.

There's good and bad use cases for AI, I consider this a better use case than generating art. Now the question is whether or not it's feasible to detect AI this way.

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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just the threat of being able to summarily remove AI content and hand out account discipline will cut down drastically on AI and practically eliminate the really low effort 'slop', it's not perfect but it's damn useful.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's also going to make it really easy to take down the content you don't like, just accuse it of being AI and watch the witch hunting roll in. I've seen plenty of examples of traditional artists getting accused of using AI in other forums, I don't imagine this will be any different.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 140 points 2 months ago (13 children)

So what's the angle? The Internet is getting flooded by AI slop. AI needs fresh REAL content to train with. That's the angle. You are there to provide frsh amd original content to feed the AI.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 2 months ago

Thats a very good point and probably exactly the idea. Dorsey has always just been an actor that says one thing and thinks another.

[–] BonkTheAnnoyed@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 months ago

Omfg this is so awful it's likely either accidental truth or a damn good prediction

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[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 94 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It would be great if ALL social media platforms banned that garbage.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 38 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Or just had a filter to hide it. I don't feel like banning something from everyone just because I personally don't like it.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would and I’d have no problem with it at all. If people want AI slop, they can go find it where it is allowed.

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[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.world 79 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A Fediverse platform for short form video, made by the guy who makes Pixelfed

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 15 points 2 months ago

Not really just short form, it's more of a take on video feeds rather than just the limited length quickcontent Vine was famous about.

Obviously the focus is still on short(ish) content format, but I see more and more people transition to longer videos to deliver content. On YT/Facebook most videos I see nowadays are 10min or above.

[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (6 children)
[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

More tiktok than vine, really

[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

You're not wrong, but an arbitrary maximum video length is the least of my problems with a Dorsey product

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[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 21 points 2 months ago

TikTok but without users.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago

Why would anyone touch any garbage this guy produces?!

[–] Concave1142@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 months ago

don't care dorsey is the problem

[–] ozoned@piefed.social 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Another walled garden that will fracture the system even more and give even more credit to the open social web.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is on nostr, I don't like the protocol very much but it is decentralised

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (11 children)

Is it decentralized like the fediverse or 'decentralized' in theory like bluesky?

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[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 months ago

Except it's not a walled garden, it's built on nostr.

[–] BonkTheAnnoyed@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 months ago

Jack Dorsey once again singing "but baby I've changed!"

hard pass from me.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

https://divine.video/ - For people who want to see for themselves.

Also the android app from the TechCrunch article, seems like it was nuked though: https://divine.b-cdn.net/app-release.apk

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[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 10 points 2 months ago

Honestly, I don't really trust any cryptobro, I see them on similar level as AI-bros

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Lemmy hates everything and everyone it seems.

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Jack Dorsey more than deserves the hate and I'm happy to discuss it with you.

[–] Dayroom7485@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

We like our negativity here - it’s still okay to disagree and be positive though!

That being said, Dorsey was fine selling his last media company to the highest-bidding fascist. Chances are he‘ll do it again.

Personally, I won’t use any social media that isn’t billionaire-proof.

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Well, my kind of humor.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Weird Al is gonna be devastated!

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago

Sure pal, sure. That's what all said, no AI, and look now.
Can't wait whe they will offer him 1bilion or scare him to death to put AI on it.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Loops: "Am I a joke to you?"

Everyone else: "Who said that?"

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