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[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago (12 children)

I like leftists in general, even moderat ones are miles better than roghtwing morons. likes guns is the lie tho. Leftists might need guns to fight against nazis but its a necessity not enjoyment.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Some of us like guns. SRA members are very friendly and whether you want a place to learn the basics without MAGA hats around or you actually end up enjoying improving your skill we are here for you. Enjoying firearms is pretty fucking nerdy. The conservative firearms dudes are more interested in getting drunk and complaining about their wives while holding something that makes them feel safe. At least initially. Some of them end up enjoying it for the same reasons leftist do. Because they're nerds. You listen to two people talk about firearms for 5 minutes and anime nerds will sound normal by comparison. I think leftist nerds could really bring some conservative gun nerds left if there were more of us.

TDLR: there are those that are firearms nerds and there are those that like owning a gun because they are afraid of going outside. Both exist on the left and right. But the former is almost exclusively right wing.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Leftists don't have to hate leftists. We could learn to celebrate each other.

[–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 59 points 1 day ago

Fuck you, pal!

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

i don't hate leftists, it's the libs who hate me.

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

All leftists are my comrades!

Except for those damn Trostskyists!

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That would make me deeply happy, and significantly increase our ability to accomplish any of the changes we'd like to see in the world

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 3 points 18 hours ago

Hey, don't do that. We need to keep pushing the meme of lefist infighting harder and harder so the CIA ops get their paycheck. Are you not considering them? Are they not exploited labor of the capitalist class too? PLEASE RECONSIDER!

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I feel like purity testing has been less of a problem lately, due to the urgency of... pretty much everything.

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Increases of purity testing is a symptom of being ineffectual. It is frustrating being a socialist when things fall apart and there are no real plans of action.

What do people do when they feel powerless?

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Any action you take in organization is a positive. I ask any of my "no kings" friends to go out and find a protest or day to contribute to a DSA or PSL event (among others but those are the ones nationwide) before the next "no kings" day. If 10% the "no kings day liberals" went out and did something between now and then we'd have a massive increase in support each day. And that is a win for me. Don't try to change the world. Change your neighborhood and find solidarity and purpose in getting others to do the same.

You don't have to feel powerful to not feel powerless. Anyone that feels powerless hasn't been organizing.

History is not made by the actions of "great men". It is made by those that plant seeds for trees that they will never enjoy the shade of. Do what you are capable of doing in your community and your local organizations. Do not be disheartened by the decades in which "nothing happens" because the "weeks in which decades happen" are built upon those times.

I swear. If all the leftist online stopped sitting at home being "informed" of the world politics and just got to the weekend thinking "Damn, i need to listen to , i was so busy organizing with that I didn't have time". We'd all be in a better place. And the political commentator might even start mentioning your community.

I like to go outside and fix stuff, or lay in bed analyzing what ive seen, but I dont need anyone's permission.

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Let's take a trip to harbor freight, and express our love for one another.

Non-tendency leftists

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[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hates leftists

That shit sent me

[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Only note is Liberals should be labeled "thinks leftists and conservatives are the same thing"

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Liberals (vote blue not matter who dems) are the actual conservatives. The conservatives (republican party of today and its followers) are better labeled as reactionaries. Liberals are sitting on a further right shifting world and looking at it through horseshoe theory.

I'm using a definition of "conservative" to mean maintain the status quo. Which is literal in its definition and not really based in material actions of those that say they are "conservative". Tongue in cheek a bit i guess,

[–] huf@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago

Liberals should be labelled "Thinks they're the leftists and that conservatives are needed for good bipartisanship"

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

I think we tell liberals and conservatives apart in the way that you'd tell two species in the same genus apart

Or honestly, two breeds of the same species these daysfree-palestine

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Conservatives and liberals should be one circle called liberals with a smaller circle inside called “conservatives: the most hated liberals”

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Conservatives and liberals should be one circle called liberals with a smaller circle inside called “conservatives: the most hated liberals”

*gestures at “Leftists don’t bother telling conservatives and liberals apart.”*

You’re just proving the chart accurate.

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're right when it comes to politicians though. They both cater to billionaires and corporations, they both support bombing random ass countries, they both support sanctioning Cuba, etc. Not shaming anyone who votes for liberals, because they're less bad domestically, but even then they're constantly moving right, now throwing trans people under the bus and such.

In terms of ideology, both believe in capitalism and US hegemony first and foremost.

I'd argue liberal voters are more likely to be decent people, but their politicians aren't very different, and that's normally what we think when we talk about just how similar they are. Hell, even among liberal voters I find their support for the US military appalling.

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I kinda see liberals as generally fitting into two categories.

One is straight up horrible people who just want to maintain a decent image. (This includes like 99% of the politicians)

Two is generally well meaning people who just aren't that politically savvy, and they hear scary stories about the "far right" and "radical left" so they figure "somewhere in the middle" must be the sweet spot.

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 1 points 21 hours ago

Gotta love those folks. We could have Earth at one end, the Sun on the other, and they might pick a spot 46 million miles out in space to find the middle way.

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