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Halfway through he describes this as malicious compliance with the "right to repair" law. Apple and others are making a mockery of the law.

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[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

Me and my 11 year old just changed the rear shocks on my car, 18mm socket and wrench, 45 minutes of time. I'll never buy a vehicle with these types of paywalls.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 hours ago

Welcome to the future, you will own nothing and be happy about it.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

it's a matter if time until they make Linux for cars.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 39 minutes ago

They already do.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 10 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

They’re still stuck on Linux for mobile.

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[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 41 points 11 hours ago (9 children)

They lock the parking brake behind a paywall on the scanner, so you have to pay a subscription fee. Chrysler has the parking brake service mode on the vehicle for users. VAG, BMW, Nissan, Toyota, GM etc all do it. It just make servicing more expensive for consumers, because the cost all gets passed down.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 28 points 11 hours ago (11 children)

Why is the parking brake involved with the computer at all....

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 42 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

It's an electronic parking brake. Those are common now because a small switch takes up less interior space than a lever for a cable-actuated parking brake, and the computer can disengage the parking brake if it detects that the driver is attempting to drive with it activated. The computer is involved in brake pad replacement to tell the parking brake motor to open to its widest position to accept new pads, and calibrate itself to their thickness.

This requires a special adapter and software subscription rather than a button on the infotainment screen because Hyundai is engaging in rent-seeking and perhaps trying to direct business to its dealers.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 10 points 6 hours ago

Guess I'll add this to the list of reasons I'm keeping my current car until it falls apart.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

So if your brakes go out and you try to use the parking brake for a slow stop it won't do anything anymore?

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago

Correct, though the car in question here is electric and will almost certainly use the motors to slow the car to reuse that energy. The motors should be able to stop the car even if the hydraulic brakes fail, and probably more effectively than a mechanical parking brake.

[–] Skysurfer@slrpnk.net 5 points 8 hours ago

Every vehicle I've had with an electric parking brake operated the same way. Hold the park button while moving and it starts clamping the parking brake down, let off the button and it starts to release. So you can basically PWM the parking brake in an emergency.

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