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So horrible when this crap is used by all your family and friends

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[–] Goldmaster@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

May be worth having a read up https://aboutsignal.com/blog/how-to-switch-from-whatsapp-to-signal/

Also there is watomatic.app which can automatically respond to a message saying you are on Signal.

[–] Paper_Phrog@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

So I have Whatsapp for regular people (most). My family switched to Telegram years ago. My GFs family uses only Signal. My brother refuses such things and made us download SimpleX.

Meanwhile I don't even want to receive messages.

[–] BassedWarrior@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

Now you have to get Matrix as well

[–] idriss@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Signal is blocked where I am, the assholes here created enough friction that nobody will bother (install signal and get a paid VPN with good obfs protocols to talk to me about how's the weather today -> dude nah I am good)

[–] maaaaaaaaat@jlai.lu 1 points 19 hours ago

Where are you ..? China ?

[–] certified_expert@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (4 children)

"I use signal. If you care about our friendship, you'll install it too."

I have friends that got it just for me. I also lost some so-called "friends"

[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm all for getting off anything meta, but come on. Someone not wanting to move to a chat service that's probably less convenient for them does not make them a "so called 'friend'" lmao.

If you're actually losing friends over this, that's quite sad.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

i have to wonder though how the fuck could we actually move a critical mass of people to better apps. we are not having any real luck here so far.

[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gradually. You don't have to get all your friends off Meta right now. Maybe some of them will, and they might push their friends to ditch meta as well.

Just keep trying. But totally alienating your friends also won't do much good for the whole perception of the movement. Becomes a lot easier to just think of that weird guy who won't talk to us anymore because of some app, rather than what it's actually about.

I feel like I worded that really badly, but I hope my point comes across.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

yeah still plinking away at it i guess, but they can always invest their money again in stealing back all of those users for a platform that will enshittify asap.

reminds me of that time people were gradually going to mastodon and then bluesky came around and stole all that thunder because of mostly superior marketing and being very similar to twitter.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

it sounds like you hit the nail on the head with marketing; the other apps needs a huge marketing budget.

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't value my privacy so much to lose my friends.

[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I also don't give a s*** if somebody snoops about me planning a brunch with some random person.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago

Hey look, there's normie's here on lemmy now! Your post is the type of naive stuff that gets a ton of traction on reddit.

Its usually more like, "I've got nothing to hide, let them look!", or whatever, but I like your version too.

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I definitely do though. Hey I'm planning a brunch here means corporations have a little more information about where you live, where you like to eat, who you have friends with, your friends weeknesses, social media can then try to inflict the group with different political opinions splitting up the friendship increasing depression and therefore the amount of time you spend on social media because it's your only escape from your depression. Just to list an example of what could happen.

[–] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

Exactly. Maybe one of your less close friends turns out to be a serial killer. Unbeknownst to you now you've made some jokes and had brunch with them. Now a team of cops is going through everything you've ever texted anyone because it's unencrypted, correlating things to make you look horrible. Suddenly you're getting your life ruined.

There are cases of innocent people riding their bikes past an unknown crime scene getting arrested for murder because their phone was reporting their location to Google. Try explaining to your boss that you're missing work today because you're in jail for a murder charge. Privacy is important even when you think it's not and perhaps especially when you think it's not

[–] ratel@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

I managed to move my family and a few friends there but my main group chats and nonchalant gf are impossible to move over unfortunately.

[–] sznowicki@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

I go one level deeper. I make me friends use matrix. They can use my server or someone else but I want them to meet me there.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

in my country, it's pretty much mandatory. everybody and their parrots use it universally.

work comms, company services. even the state uses it for their services (of course they have other means too but still).

and i don't trust it at all. been meaning to sandbox it better than just denying permissions.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Setup a matrix bridge for WhatsApp. Run WhatsApp on a VM when you need to open the app. Tell them you don't have calls which they will get on signal.

[–] maaaaaaaaat@jlai.lu 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Oh wow nice idea, I'm gonna do it ASAP, thanks!

EDIT: after few research Ive seen that also : https://github.com/meinto/whatsapp-signal-bridge

[–] UNY0N@lemmy.wtf 5 points 2 days ago

I made the jump to signal, and those that refused to come with got relegated to SMS.

But it's not always that easy. Sorry that you have to deal with that BS.

[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Signal is also compromised. It's supported by the US security state. Use Matrix chat for friends if not for family members.

[–] stupud@lemmy.zip -1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Yes it is, but most people cant understand it for some reason Its not 100% open source, haven't fixed a hole that breaks encryption for a while and the CEO is a jew who worked at facebook

[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

Calm down with the anti-semitism.

[–] ComradePedro@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago
[–] dracs@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you point to any vulnerabilities in its source code as evidence for this?

[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

If they could they wouldn't have written that.