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When it can be assumed that you are being surveilled while expressing negative opinion about the federal government, it’s probably best to go ahead and make the assumption, particularly during the punitive heights of the second Donald Trump administration. New reporting from the Associated Press this weekend detailed some aspects of not only United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) latest anti-immigrant and deportation campaign in New Orleans, but also some interesting insights into how both the federal and state law enforcement agencies involved have been engaged in online surveillance campaigns to track public sentiment toward that crackdown. The story paints a chilling profile of a United States in which dissent against the regime’s campaign of immigrant-targeted cruelty is being carefully compiled, filed away for the potential of future use against American citizens. Not that any of this should be a surprise for any of us.

We have, after all, been warned over and over that organizations like ICE have been wanting to vastly expand their online operations, using the same vastly expanded budget that recently saw them purchase a new $7.3 million fleet of (Canadian made) armored vehicles. The online expansion of ICE, meanwhile, is not just in the name of locating more groups of undocumented immigrants to target, but also to compile sprawling digital enemies lists, creating databases of those who have expressed anti-ICE sentiment. Earlier this year, The Intercept wrote about surveillance contractors sought by ICE, who would be expected to perform algorithm- and AI-aided deep dives into social media users’ post histories, searching for, among other things, “proclivity for violence,” which could include “empathy with a group which has violent tendencies,” among other things. Hope you haven’t expressed “empathy” at any point for any group with “violent tendencies,” right? How does it feel to know that you’d be at the mercy of a freelance surveillance contractor’s mastery of “social and behavioral sciences” and “psychological profiles,” according to ICE’s statement of objectives?

How much of these draconian operations have already been implemented isn’t entirely clear thanks to the shroud of secrecy surrounding the DHS and ICE, but fresh reporting in October noted that ICE was in the process of seeking an additional 30 full-time surveillance contractors to staff two of its “targeting centers”–and yes, that is apparently the official, deeply dystopian term for these facilities. These facilities, in Williston, VT and Santa Ana, CA, would run 24/7 shifts as surveillance analysts “receive tips and incoming cases, research individuals online, and package the results into dossiers that could be used by field offices to plan arrests.” The obvious question: How long until the same resources are being used to target those critical of ICE, or those organizing to impede ICE crackdown efforts, under the guise of “interference with law enforcement operations”? It should also be noted that even if ICE isn’t directly targeting those individuals yet, the unspoken threat of this kind of online surveillance could be intended to have a chilling effect on anti-ICE criticism.

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[–] Krono@lemmy.today 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well there's a good chance I'll die in a Trump concentration camp, so might as well make the best of it.

Shoot to kill any intruders that invade your home without a warrant.

If ICE Gestapo thugs invade your home without a warrant, be a hero. Exercise your second amendment right.

[–] Headofthebored@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Even if you end up being killed take at least one of the henchmen with you. Make them aware that they must choose which of their colleagues is going in first and not going home to their family. If you don't get the due process the constitution guarantees, one of them will eat lead.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is pretty much my posture regarding ICE and the Trump Regime. If I am destined for one of RFK's plantations, I intend to kill any ICE bastard who comes for me.

More importantly, if this cold war goes hot, I will engage with ICE bastards in warfare. I am simply waiting for the Blue States Military to give the order to assemble and uphold the spirit of the Constitution.

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[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

If ICE wants to crack down on people's 1A rights then they may quickly be finding issues with the 2A folks.

Well, in some states anyways.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The 2A folks are overwhelmingly on the side of the oppressors...

[–] Coyote_sly@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Then it may be time to go shopping while you still can.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not really... According to Pew Research Approximately 45% of Republicans report owning a gun, compared to about 20% of Democrats. Considering the parties are often roughly equally sized when it comes to these statistical models, that's not actually a massive difference. There are plenty of armed Democrats, they're just not vocal about wanting to worship their tools.

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ICE recently lured someone out of their house by claiming to be a construction worker (dressed up I'm guessing) that hit a parked car. 😮‍💨

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 5 points 1 week ago (7 children)

If ICE wants to crack down on people’s 1A rights...

  • ...As if those rights even exist anymore outside of a dead letter.
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[–] space@reddthat.com 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is exactly why I have been very vocal about my disapproval. The more people they have to watch the less effectively they can do it.

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[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Earlier this year, The Intercept wrote about surveillance contractors sought by ICE, who would be expected to perform algorithm- and AI-aided deep dives into social media users’ post histories, searching for, among other things, “proclivity for violence,” which could include “empathy with a group which has violent tendencies,” among other things. Hope you haven’t expressed “empathy” at any point for any group with “violent tendencies,” right? How does it feel to know that you’d be at the mercy of a freelance surveillance contractor’s mastery of “social and behavioral sciences” and “psychological profiles,” according to ICE’s statement of objectives?

How fucking creepy is it to think about this psychological manipulation pre-crime bullshit and take into account that one of the briefings released yesterday took note of people in New Orleans seeming especially disturbed by videos with the sound of crying children.

Officials track public sentiment, noting negative impact of ‘videos with sounds of children crying’ as parents arrested

It seems very unlikely this is being noted in order to answer questions like "How do we tone it down a bit and keep things from boiling over?"

Imo (and obviously feel free to take that with a grain of salt since I'm totally "overly-paranoid" about how evil these people are and the levels they would stoop to) it seems more likely this is to answer a question of "How do we use psychological warfare against the American people and send them closer to their breaking point?"

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

And they wonder why darknet forums like Dread exist

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago
[–] 0ndead@infosec.pub 24 points 1 week ago

ICE & CBP are traitors to this country

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good. There should be no confusion when we go for their fucking heads.

[–] Oyml77@lemmy.today 19 points 1 week ago

Trump for Guillotine! Lop Him Up! Lop Him Up! Lop Him Up!

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My guess is that they don't quite have the resources to do anything about it but are more than happy to let everyone know they are doing it to scare people. We've already seen how abysmal their ICE recruitment numbers have been and I highly doubt they'd be able to do anything against more than 50% of the entire population with what they currently have.

Obligatory Fuck ICE

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago

Better not submit nonsense reports.

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[–] Nima@leminal.space 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

ICE can go fuck themselves with a rusty rake 💕🫰😘

twice 😊

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 6 points 1 week ago

I'd prefer the first time that they finish, with a lasting stillness after. No need for a second round.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Lmao yeah come to my house about internet posts and see what happens

Please waste resources on me :3

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah, come get me, motherfuckers.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean, the NSA data centers have been doing this for ages now.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think we've been learning recently that no, the agencies have not been doing this. Now that the actual conspiracy nuts are in charge they are doing what they always accused the state of doing.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

learning recently

Have we? There have been articles about this in widely known publications like USA Today since 2006!

I thought back then, "Well surely people won't stand for this!"

Here we are though...

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[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think it's more that the morons in charge aren't trying to hide it anymore. The federal government isn't going to spend billions capturing all Internet traffic in the country and not use it for 20 years.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

With the added bonus of keeping track of the public response to videos of children crying when being separated from their parents?

And using AI to build psychological profiles in order to continue to target them with a tailored algorithm?

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That sounds more like the CIA, but I'm sure they share data.

Yeah at this point, I am more than confident that it's pretty safe to just lump every loyalist still following orders being given from the war criminals (who are the face of being) in charge of the government under the shared title of secret police.

If the CIA and plenty of other powerful conservatives didn't want Trump to be doing the things he's doing, he wouldn't be sitting in the fucking white house right now taking a shit on the constitution.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Really? Ok! Fuck you tRump!

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